Meg's DA MF Correction System V.S. GG 6" ROP

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They have similar features, right? But how come, a lot of people seem to like the Meg's DA MF Correction System when it comes to removing scratches & swirls and levelling the paint?

If you were to have only one of the two, which one would you get?
 
I think you may be confusing the pads with the machine.

Meg's does make a DA but the DA MF Correction System is a set of cutting and finishing pads, bp, compound, and finishing wax for use with a DA to level paint.

The GG 6" ROP is a dual action machine that can use the Meg's MF system or foam pads to level paint.

Does that help or have I misunderstood the question?
 
These are two totallity differenting things..they are like apples and..bathing suits.

One is a System the other is a Dual Action Polisher

The Griots Garage 6" Polisher

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Meguiar's DA Microfiber Correction System

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You can use the Griots Garage 6" Polisher to apply the compound and polish with the microfiber pads. The Meguiars DA Microfiber Correction System is two types of liquid (compoud and a polish) along with new pads which are microfiber.

Meguiar's does make a Polisher like Griot's Garage though.

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If I was going to get one I would still get Griot's Garage 6" Polisher. It's more powerful and has a lifetime warranty :)

Hope this helps! :props:
 
My bad for the this post. I actually realized that these are two different things after I posted my question.

But I guess the more acceptable question is, how do you compare the Meg's Correction System with the other buffing pads like Lake Country CCS?
 
Meg's MF DA system is actually on back order ATM (6 and 5" bundle).

I plan on using the MF DA system right away when it gets here (I'm guessing next week or so). Also from what I can gather the cutting pads of the MF DA System are superb compared to say Lake Country orange, but still below compared to Surbuf R in cutting power.

The finishing pad is probably just as good as a Lake Country black if not a bit better.
 
rjgervacio said:
My bad for the this post. I actually realized that these are two different things after I posted my question.

But I guess the more acceptable question is, how do you compare the Meg's Correction System with the other buffing pads like Lake Country CCS?
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LC is a foam pad and Meg's CS is a mirofiber pad. You will have more correction ability with the mf pads.
 
I just ordered the cutting pads on the weekend and got an email saying it would ship in 3-4 days b/c the pads were not in stock. :(
Hopefully they arrive by Thursday so my order can ship out!
 
Rei86 said:
Meg's MF DA system is actually on back order ATM (6 and 5" bundle).

I plan on using the MF DA system right away when it gets here (I'm guessing next week or so). Also from what I can gather the cutting pads of the MF DA System are superb compared to say Lake Country orange, but still below compared to Surbuf R in cutting power.

The finishing pad is probably just as good as a Lake Country black if not a bit better.
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You mentioned the Surbuf R, it seems to me that this is one of the top options for buffing pads as far as cutting power is concerned.
 
rjgervacio said:
But I guess the more acceptable question is, how do you compare the Meg's Correction System with the other buffing pads like Lake Country CCS?
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First, at this time, the Meguiar's Microfiber Pad DA Correction System is recommended by the manufacture for use only on factory paint. So as long as all you're working on is factory, baked-on paint, then this system will work well.

Second, the Meguiar's Microfiber Pad DA Correction System is targeted at the "Production" detailing industry, not show car work. You can use it to create show car results, but most Pro's are asking for a dedicated secondary polish for the system, not a "polish/wax" two-steps in one type product.

As far as comparing microfiber pads to foam pads? Two completely different materials that react very differently. The truth is these things are tools and like any tool there's a best fit or best use for each tool.

Having both in your arsenal or "Tool Chest" is a good way to go, it just depends upon what you're doing...

  • Are you a detailer?
  • Are you an enthusiast just trying to take care of your own cars?


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Hey Mike how come this is only recommended for factory paint? Is OEM paint job that much harder then aftermarket?
 
Rei86 said:
Hey Mike how come this is only recommended for factory paint? Is OEM paint job that much harder then aftermarket?
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The paint applied at the factory level is done under a lot of stringent quality control processes. For most cars, the paint is baked on at temperatures around 300 degrees, this is before any wiring, upholstery, vinyl, leather, etc., is installed due to the heat.

The controls used to spray paint at the factory level is can't be matched by all the variables involved with all the body shops, dealerships that re-paint cars... too many variables about the paint...

My own personal experience is micro-marring on re-paints.

Now you get micro-marring when you use a Surbuf pad and everyone knows they need to re-polish using a foam pad. Same goes for microfiber pads, if the pad is causing micro-marring but you like the defect removal speed, then simply re-polish using a foam pad.

This is another reason I always recommend to people to do some testing on any car they are working on if they've never buffed on the paint before.

Paint systems are different from car to car, you don't know how a paint system is going to react until you actually go out into the garage and bring the polisher down on the paint.

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I can understand the tons of variables from a normal body shop to say a high end like 20/20 AutoBody.

Also never thought they baked on on the paint too...

This has me wondering about Mercedes Benz's new Nano Paint tech that came out in 2003 that's supposed to be scratch free for most of the cars life.
 
My opinion is that the DA MF system is great. It is effective, easy to work and easy to clean up. If I were a volume detailer, that would be my go to system. In fact, it has quickly become my go to system for family and friends cars. It is VERY EASY to get good results (have only used it on factory clear so far).

I used it on my already pristine garage queen just a few weeks ago. IT was great for a touchup. I would like to have a finishing polish without wax that is as easy to work as the D301. I did not try M205 yet. That may be the answer. Although the D301 smells too good not to use. I think it smells like blueberry muffin batter.

Foam pads give you more flexibility for different jobs ranging from achieving show car results to repairing abused or injured paint. The OPs job would likely require foam pads in various densities used with polishes in varying "grits".

AS Mike said, they are tools and we can never have enough tools. I plan to keep and continue to use and experiment with both MF discs and foam pads. In fact, I plan to add a rotary and wool pads to my arsenal this summer.
 
I'm a shopaholic when it comes to crap that I don't need so not only did I purchase the MF DA 5" system (back order:( ) since my car has no clear, factory paint is 18 years old, and its a #### condition.

Not only that I purchased it since its a AutoGeek motto is to use the least abrasive then work myself up. Since I'm a noob it also seemed like in the videos when Meguiars visited Mike that it looked to be a super easy on and off product... compared to the M105.

So yeah in hopes that next week AutoGeek will have shipped out my MF DA system so I can do some work on my car so it can be clean and pristine when it goes up for sale.

Just wondering since the D301 is a wax if its a good idea to skip that and go D300 > M205 instead?
 
Rei86 said:
I'm a shopaholic when it comes to crap that I don't need so not only did I purchase the MF DA 5" system (back order:( ) since my car has no clear, factory paint is 18 years old, and its a #### condition.

Not only that I purchased it since its a AutoGeek motto is to use the least abrasive then work myself up. Since I'm a noob it also seemed like in the videos when Meguiars visited Mike that it looked to be a super easy on and off product... compared to the M105.

So yeah in hopes that next week AutoGeek will have shipped out my MF DA system so I can do some work on my car so it can be clean and pristine when it goes up for sale.

Just wondering since the D301 is a wax if its a good idea to skip that and go D300 > M205 instead?
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Super easy on and off. Makes M105 hard to reach for. It was hard for me to use 105 with MF Cutting discs. IT seemed to leave the polish on thick and caked on a little making it hard to remove.

Next car I plan to try D300/M205. Dont know if it will be this weekend or not. Will try to post results/opinions once I get them.
 
maximus20895 said:
I will be expecting a result thread, Kevin.
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Ruh-roh. Pressure is on.

I am waiting to buy a 2003 Mustang from my bro-in-law. He is getting a new explorer built. Apparently it is built and awaiting shipment. As soon as it gets here, the Mustang is mine. As soon as the Mustang is mine, it will get detailed.

It was already my first DA MF test vehicle. About a month ago, I borrowed it and did the hood and roof when I had a few hours with it. I was amazed at the change in appearance of the car.

I look forward to the thread.
 
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