Meguiar's M105 Ultra Cut vs Ultimate Compound

[TimmyG]

There is nothing wrong with M105, many people simply are not using the compound correctly imo. It's key to prime your pad with 105, no question - and it shows in the longer working time when you prime it. As mentioned earlier, adding one small drop of D300 will also make a big difference for working time.

I do agree though, FG400 is awesome.

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

I am very curious to try Menzerna FG400 myself, since I don't like working with M105, the dust and short working time just drives me nuts.

It may have a higher purchse price than M105 but after using it you will be happy to shell out the extra money for it. I know I dont think twice about the purchase of FG400.

You will love it.:buffing:

I agree.

 

[kantonburg]

I know this is a bump from a few months back, but I've been debating this decision for quite some time. My situation is I'll only be working on personal, parents, and the in-laws vehicles. The only issue is none have a garage or shade trees. I'm going to have to work around the sun (mornings and afternoons).

The more I read about FG400 and UC the more I want to try those before 105. The other upside to UC is that I can run to my local advance auto and grab a bottle whenever I need it.

I'm just starting into this with a limited budget and as much as I'd like to try everything I have to commit when I make a choice and see it through.

 

[artofdetailing]

Bought m101 because i read a review from an fg400 user that said this was better. Hoping he was right. Haven't used it yet. M105 is such a pain I'd stay far away

 

[Kacz]

I know this is a bump from a few months back, but I've been debating this decision for quite some time. My situation is I'll only be working on personal, parents, and the in-laws vehicles. The only issue is none have a garage or shade trees. I'm going to have to work around the sun (mornings and afternoons).

The more I read about FG400 and UC the more I want to try those before 105. The other upside to UC is that I can run to my local advance auto and grab a bottle whenever I need it.

I'm just starting into this with a limited budget and as much as I'd like to try everything I have to commit when I make a choice and see it through.

You won't be disappointed by UC and UP. I recently corrected my sister's Wrangler with that combo on microfiber and foam pads with my Flex and HF polishers. (Wanted to try these both and this was a perfect excuse)

I Wasn't looking for money, so I didn't want to use any expensive polishes and was only going for 80-90%. With this combo I got to 95% perfection on a black Jeep...very easy to work with and great results for a great price.

Definitely would recommend this combo to a beginner or one that only works on their own cars.

Edit: I'm definitely going to always have these in my arsenal. I should have stated that before. Very surprised by them, but have only used them once.

 

[Gsrjake]

Whys no one like the m205? I wana switch over to m205 and m105

 

[spiralout462]

Whys no one like the m205? I wana switch over to m205 and m105

Meguiar's M205 is a fine-cut polish. This thread is comparing heavy-cut compounds. M205 is a wonderful product that is very well recieved in the detailing industry.

 

[cardaddy]

I know this is a bump from a few months back, but I've been debating this decision for quite some time. My situation is I'll only be working on personal, parents, and the in-laws vehicles. The only issue is none have a garage or shade trees. I'm going to have to work around the sun (mornings and afternoons).

The more I read about FG400 and UC the more I want to try those before 105. The other upside to UC is that I can run to my local advance auto and grab a bottle whenever I need it.

I'm just starting into this with a limited budget and as much as I'd like to try everything I have to commit when I make a choice and see it through.

Old neglected paint may indeed need 105. But, it is a royal PITA if you've not used it before. You can however prime your pad with UC then use 3 drops of 105 with each section pass to get the best of both worlds. Also you can just mix the two with a couple of drops of each.

Heck I mix 105 and 151, call it 256 and use it on something that can stand a bit more cut but benefits from the way 151 finishes. (Can always throw a finer finishing polish on it, or just straight 151 for that matter. Also have mixed D300 and 105 just for the heck of it, (that'd be 405).

You can probably find 105 in Advance as well. I have 3 within 15 or so minutes and 1 has twice the inventory of the other two on detailing products including several of the 'mirror glaze' line of Meguiar's products.

Bought m101 because i read a review from an fg400 user that said this was better. Hoping he was right. Haven't used it yet. M105 is such a pain I'd stay far away

Yes 101 does work easier than 105 as far as not being stupidly hard to remove, but it isn't foolproof. (Nothing ever is actually.)

Whys no one like the m205? I wana switch over to m205 and m105

I think most everyone loves 205. That is of course as a finishing polish. Remember 105 is a cutting compound with over twice the cut.

 

[Gsrjake]

Meguiar's M205 is a fine-cut polish. This thread is comparing heavy-cut compounds. M205 is a wonderful product that is very well recieved in the detailing industry.

my bad I meant to put m105 and not 205

Old neglected paint may indeed need 105. But, it is a royal PITA if you've not used it before. You can however prime your pad with UC then use 3 drops of 105 with each section pass to get the best of both worlds. Also you can just mix the two with a couple of drops of each.

Heck I mix 105 and 151, call it 256 and use it on something that can stand a bit more cut but benefits from the way 151 finishes. (Can always throw a finer finishing polish on it, or just straight 151 for that matter. Also have mixed D300 and 105 just for the heck of it, (that'd be 405).

You can probably find 105 in Advance as well. I have 3 within 15 or so minutes and 1 has twice the inventory of the other two on detailing products including several of the 'mirror glaze' line of Meguiar's products.



Yes 101 does work easier than 105 as far as not being stupidly hard to remove, but it isn't foolproof. (Nothing ever is actually.)



I think most everyone loves 205. That is of course as a finishing polish. Remember 105 is a cutting compound with over twice the cut.

my bad I meant to put 105 instead of 205, so whats bad about it? hard to remove? dusting? what? im interesting in getting it for fast cutting and more product considering the 32oz is only $30 at autozone

 

[spence]

I love megs products, but I do not know why Megs does not improve their 105 product after all the complaints they have received about it. Last week I applied 205, cool day in my garage, great working time no dusting. However it left traces of the 2000 wet sanding, so I primed my orange GG pad with UC (as some have suggested on this site) and added 3 drops of 105. Instant dusting. I went ahead anyway tolerating the dusting. The 105 removed the sanding marks and then I finished off with 205. I went to 205 instead of UC because the consistency of my UC seemed lumpy even after shaking it for 30 seconds before using it. Has anybody else noticed lumpy UC or is it just my bottle?

 

[Pureshine]

I have a black Escalade in my shop right now and for most 1 step I use FG400 with MF pads. I had to try 5 different combos to get the look I wanted. Had to go back to 105/205 with a foam pad.

 

[scrubs147]

M105: DA Approved Version - Also states that it works with a foam pad. For this reason I bought it and use it all the time with my Flex DA and an orange pad. Never had any issues with it and enjoy working with it.

 

[jankerson]

M105: DA Approved Version - Also states that it works with a foam pad. For this reason I bought it and use it all the time with my Flex DA and an orange pad. Never had any issues with it and enjoy working with it.

Yep, exactly. :iagree:

I use it with a Megs 6.5" yellow pad, works great. rops:

 

[Sidon]

Have used M105 followed with M205.
Experienced chalky white appearance on my car paint after using this products and after the vehicle sat for several days. The chalky white appearance will not go away as it appears that chalky material absorbed in the clear coat.
Not happy with it.
There is a wipe off issue with this products.

 

[Desertnate]

I think you might have a bad bottle. Maybe the lid doesn't seal well? The bottle I have has an even consistancy just like you'd expect from any other liquid polish/compound.

 

[spiralout462]

Have used M105 followed with M205.
Experienced chalky white appearance on my car paint after using this products and after the vehicle sat for several days. The chalky white appearance will not go away as it appears that chalky material absorbed in the clear coat.
Not happy with it.
There is a wipe off issue with this products.

Could be DA haze? Any icture: