Meguiars Paint Protect
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Quiksilver5882
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Just got some today. Here are my thoughts thus far:
- Application is very easy. I used a yellow foam applicator and made a small x with the product. Applied it using a cross-hatch pattern.
- Removal is effortless. After five minutes I wiped it off with no issues.
- Slickness is amazing.
I applied this product to the roof and trunk lid of my daily driver. This car is the test mule for most of my detailing products. I will continue to update regarding durability. We are supposed to get some weather tomorrow so I'll take some pictures of the beading.
- Application is very easy. I used a yellow foam applicator and made a small x with the product. Applied it using a cross-hatch pattern.
- Removal is effortless. After five minutes I wiped it off with no issues.
- Slickness is amazing.
I applied this product to the roof and trunk lid of my daily driver. This car is the test mule for most of my detailing products. I will continue to update regarding durability. We are supposed to get some weather tomorrow so I'll take some pictures of the beading.
Good to know.
Mine is scheduled to show up Thursday, but it's going to be too cold to do anything, so no testing for me for a while.
Charleston
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What did you think about the look of it?
How much product did it take? Very little?
How much product did it take? Very little?
Quiksilver5882
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As far as looks...can't really say much because my car is already polished. It didn't take much product at all. A very thin X bead on the small yellow applicator pad was all I needed for half of the roof.
Quiksilver5882
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Not to start a war, however the whole point of it is for protection. Get the glossiness from your compounding and polishing and then seal it up with the LSP of your choice.
The Guz
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It was designed for durability. When I saw this in person at one of the thursday night garage's that Meguiar's hosted, it did darken the paint very little. It was compared side by side with Ultimate Wax and Ultimate wax was darker and glossier.
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This was exactly what I was looking for! Thank you!
Thanks for all of the replies!
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I just got done with my water test. I'm not sure if my results will be typical, I'm looking forward to hearing what others are experiencing with this product. But I'll go ahead and put up what I'm noticing in print.
PREP: I prepped the car using Meguiar's Deep Crystal soap, clayed using Nanoskin Autoscrub sponge, M205 was then applied by hand.
APPLICATION: Like Quiksilver says, the product applies very easily and is easy to remove. I noticed some slight smearing trying to get it off but after a few swipes with another towel it was fully removed, and I noticed no streaking the next day in the sun. Most likely I applied it a little too thick. The product is watery and feels oily in your fingers. I'm down here in Orlando, it was about 75* on application, done in the shade. I do not have garage space however, so the car sat outside while curing, temps dropped into the 45* range overnight. Was partly cloudy today, paint temperatures got into the 90-100* range reflecting the sun, air temp was around mid to low 70s.
WATER TEST: Certainly beads water but nothing spectacular. This is where I need to hear what others are experiencing. The sheeting behavior is very similar to liquid NXT 2.0. Which is more of a sheeting style of wax. The water goes flat across the panel, and breaks up in certain areas leaving a largely dry surface. As opposed to high surface tension beading type waxes which largely fight that tendency of the water to go flat across the panel. The water behavior with those waxes largely fall off of the paint in streamers when I have the hose nozzle set to the shower setting, verses completely flooding with a sheet of water. To explain this further, take a look at my video here where I compare the repellency characteristics of NXT 2.0 to TW's ICE Liquid Wax: Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Wax vs. Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0 - Water Test - YouTube. Go to about 4:40 and you'll see how NXT behaves with the water, and you'll see that the longer I put the water down on to that side of the panel, the flatter the water sheeting gets. Paint Protect appears to behave very similar. One note, I did apply some Paint Protect to the plastic cowl trim near the windshield, beading was great throughout the water test, it slightly darkened the look of the trim, but I did not prep the trim beyond the soap and a microfiber wipedown prior to application.
On the back directions, Meguiar's does not recommend that you apply this product on glass or windshields. The first thing I tested however when I received it was apply it to the glass :xyxthumbs: (on a non-daily project car). I figured anything that I'm hyping up in my head to be an ultra tight beading sort of product would do perfect on glass, and I'm expecting the only reason they would recommend it not go on glass is because of wiper skip or streaking/oily residue which causes glare from sun. I did not notice any sort of streaking or glare in the glass while driving around. Haven't tested the wipers yet, but again, my initial water test leads me to believe this sort of product is a flat sheeting sort of product verses a tight extremely hydrophobic beading one.
As far as looks go in comparison on paint against Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax, I did not notice the finish to be any more or less fantastic. The paint looked very good on both sides, not enough of a difference for me to determine. However, the feeling of the paint after applying was noticeably smoother on the Paint Protect side vs. the UQW side.
A few potential areas of flaws in my testing: The car was not garaged while applying. Although I was in the shade on a cool surface while applying, it's not known if the lower temperature during the night or the hotter temperature of the paint during the day affected curing behavior. Also, I did not apply any IPA wipedown or similar chemical product after the mechanical abrasive M205 to prep the paint for application. Furthermore, the M205 was applied by hand. My buffers are all the way up in freezing Chicago, so I wasn't able to compound with M105 and follow up with M205 on the buffers to provide the utmost surface prep prior to application which is usually what I do before I test my products.
FINAL THOUGHTS: First thing I noticed when I opened the bottle was the smell (the back recommends you avoid the vapors, but we already know I like breaking the rulebook for the sake of testing). Smell took me a little bit to figure out but then it hit me, and I dug deep in my super old arsenal and picked up Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Synthetic Polish all the way on the bottom shelf in the back underneath all of the dead roaches. Yep, that old watery ICE stuff that was all the consumer rage years and years and years ago. The Paint Protect smell reminded me of it, it's not exactly the same or as potent as ICE, but that's what I thought of. Then I shook each of the bottles, they have the same consistency, the same bubble reaction to shaking, to be honest, this looks like Meguiar's answer to ICE years after the fact. Only, ICE Synthetic Polish was never known to have spectacular durability or crazy beading, not until their latest ICE Paste and Liquid waxes came out which have great short term water repellency characteristics.
Now, it pains me a bit to start comparing this Paint Protect to a product none of us will (probably) ever grab for again (if you ever did), which is why I need help determining if the potential flaws in my test are preventing this Paint Protect product from beading as spectacularly as I hyped it up in my head for. If my results however are typical, then at the end of the day we have a really easy to use product, that doesn't hurt the look of the car, allows the paint to be incredibly smooth, for a price that certainly doesn't break any bank, as a product advertised to have great endurance. So take my results with a grain of salt, I will only report my personal experiences and what is going through my head while I do so. We need more results to get a better grasp on how this product behaves in other application environments.
PREP: I prepped the car using Meguiar's Deep Crystal soap, clayed using Nanoskin Autoscrub sponge, M205 was then applied by hand.
APPLICATION: Like Quiksilver says, the product applies very easily and is easy to remove. I noticed some slight smearing trying to get it off but after a few swipes with another towel it was fully removed, and I noticed no streaking the next day in the sun. Most likely I applied it a little too thick. The product is watery and feels oily in your fingers. I'm down here in Orlando, it was about 75* on application, done in the shade. I do not have garage space however, so the car sat outside while curing, temps dropped into the 45* range overnight. Was partly cloudy today, paint temperatures got into the 90-100* range reflecting the sun, air temp was around mid to low 70s.
WATER TEST: Certainly beads water but nothing spectacular. This is where I need to hear what others are experiencing. The sheeting behavior is very similar to liquid NXT 2.0. Which is more of a sheeting style of wax. The water goes flat across the panel, and breaks up in certain areas leaving a largely dry surface. As opposed to high surface tension beading type waxes which largely fight that tendency of the water to go flat across the panel. The water behavior with those waxes largely fall off of the paint in streamers when I have the hose nozzle set to the shower setting, verses completely flooding with a sheet of water. To explain this further, take a look at my video here where I compare the repellency characteristics of NXT 2.0 to TW's ICE Liquid Wax: Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Wax vs. Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax 2.0 - Water Test - YouTube. Go to about 4:40 and you'll see how NXT behaves with the water, and you'll see that the longer I put the water down on to that side of the panel, the flatter the water sheeting gets. Paint Protect appears to behave very similar. One note, I did apply some Paint Protect to the plastic cowl trim near the windshield, beading was great throughout the water test, it slightly darkened the look of the trim, but I did not prep the trim beyond the soap and a microfiber wipedown prior to application.
On the back directions, Meguiar's does not recommend that you apply this product on glass or windshields. The first thing I tested however when I received it was apply it to the glass :xyxthumbs: (on a non-daily project car). I figured anything that I'm hyping up in my head to be an ultra tight beading sort of product would do perfect on glass, and I'm expecting the only reason they would recommend it not go on glass is because of wiper skip or streaking/oily residue which causes glare from sun. I did not notice any sort of streaking or glare in the glass while driving around. Haven't tested the wipers yet, but again, my initial water test leads me to believe this sort of product is a flat sheeting sort of product verses a tight extremely hydrophobic beading one.
As far as looks go in comparison on paint against Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Wax, I did not notice the finish to be any more or less fantastic. The paint looked very good on both sides, not enough of a difference for me to determine. However, the feeling of the paint after applying was noticeably smoother on the Paint Protect side vs. the UQW side.
A few potential areas of flaws in my testing: The car was not garaged while applying. Although I was in the shade on a cool surface while applying, it's not known if the lower temperature during the night or the hotter temperature of the paint during the day affected curing behavior. Also, I did not apply any IPA wipedown or similar chemical product after the mechanical abrasive M205 to prep the paint for application. Furthermore, the M205 was applied by hand. My buffers are all the way up in freezing Chicago, so I wasn't able to compound with M105 and follow up with M205 on the buffers to provide the utmost surface prep prior to application which is usually what I do before I test my products.
FINAL THOUGHTS: First thing I noticed when I opened the bottle was the smell (the back recommends you avoid the vapors, but we already know I like breaking the rulebook for the sake of testing). Smell took me a little bit to figure out but then it hit me, and I dug deep in my super old arsenal and picked up Turtle Wax ICE Liquid Synthetic Polish all the way on the bottom shelf in the back underneath all of the dead roaches. Yep, that old watery ICE stuff that was all the consumer rage years and years and years ago. The Paint Protect smell reminded me of it, it's not exactly the same or as potent as ICE, but that's what I thought of. Then I shook each of the bottles, they have the same consistency, the same bubble reaction to shaking, to be honest, this looks like Meguiar's answer to ICE years after the fact. Only, ICE Synthetic Polish was never known to have spectacular durability or crazy beading, not until their latest ICE Paste and Liquid waxes came out which have great short term water repellency characteristics.
Now, it pains me a bit to start comparing this Paint Protect to a product none of us will (probably) ever grab for again (if you ever did), which is why I need help determining if the potential flaws in my test are preventing this Paint Protect product from beading as spectacularly as I hyped it up in my head for. If my results however are typical, then at the end of the day we have a really easy to use product, that doesn't hurt the look of the car, allows the paint to be incredibly smooth, for a price that certainly doesn't break any bank, as a product advertised to have great endurance. So take my results with a grain of salt, I will only report my personal experiences and what is going through my head while I do so. We need more results to get a better grasp on how this product behaves in other application environments.
Eandras
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I got my order of paint protect today. Won't beable to use it will be to cold tomorrow to detail. But I have a few questions such as
When applying can you apply the product to the whole vehicle and then go back and remove?
I assume that to get the most out of this product and get the most gloss (deep look) would be to put over a favorite wax.
I also would like to know if a glaze like PB black hole affects the paint protect.
Ed
When applying can you apply the product to the whole vehicle and then go back and remove?
I assume that to get the most out of this product and get the most gloss (deep look) would be to put over a favorite wax.
I also would like to know if a glaze like PB black hole affects the paint protect.
Ed
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FUNX650
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Neither: It's a paint "protectant".
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~Michael Stoops:
"...application is essentially like any other wax - very thin and uniform, but you find that a little goes a very long way with this. Essentially apply and wipe off."
~Michael Stoops:
"We definitely do NOT classify this as a coating. It's a paint protectant, so it's right in there with waxes and sealants, except that it's crazy durable and the very thin viscosity of the product make the application and wipe off a somewhat unique experience in the world of waxes and sealants."
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IMO:
The above application/removal processes of
Meguiar's PP-365 (basically: WOWO)...
clearly goes against how Cleaner-Sealants must be
"worked-into" the paint to be effective.
Bob