Meguiars Paint Protect

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There is a thread already under the Ask the Expert section of the forum but isn't getting as much coverage.


Has anyone gotten there hands on this stuff? Would love to hear or see some real world reviews
 
It is posted in a much lower traffic forum was the point of my post.
 
Mine just showed up today but way too cold to do anything with it. I plan on sharing my thoughts when I use it.
 
I posted a more lengthy review in that thread listed above. I've been playing around with Paint Protect a little more yesterday and today. It does not appear to be a really tight beading product. So I can see a bit more of why Meguiar's would recommend that you don't use this on the windshield. Products that are designed as beading type products are more effective in repelling water for windshield usage. For those guys out there that enjoy the sheeting style behavior, this product works just fine for that. Flooding the panel causes the water to largely go flat, leaving a largely dry surface once gravity has done its work. You definitely notice that a product is on the panel doing its job compared to nothing on the panel. Meguiar's has largely design most of their waxes to behave like this. Gold Class, NXT version 1, even NXT 2.0. Their Ultimate line of waxes largely start out as tight beading products but when I did my test and flooded the panel I could see that shift in water behavior after flooding for a few minutes which led to a sheeting style of repellency...again, great for drying and is a repellency characteristic that appears to be desired by many detailers.

Very silky smooth product to apply. Spreads incredibly easily. Comes off just fine, a little goes a long way. If in fact the durability is as advertised, it's a great little product for the price. But as far as using beading as an indicator of durability, for sheeting style LSPs, individual beads largely become oblong shaped after introduced to water for a short period. I'll try to get a video up soon to show how it reacts to water, at least in my environment.
 
I put it in my latest order but got an email it was on backorder.
 
Nice video! That paint protect isn't looking too sexy compared to turtle wax. I wonder if this is the "coating" that Jason rose was referring to in one of Larry's podcasts
 
Nice video. Curious to see the beading by misting to see how the beading looks. The sheeting does look great.
 
Definitely looks like it's designed to sheet water instead of using tight beading with high contact angle to cause them to roll off the panel. Probably a good choice for those that struggle with water spots.
 
ZL1 Mark said:
Nice video. Did you remove the oils from M205 before applying paint protect?
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For this test I did not perform an IPA wipedown or IPA substitute after M205 or prior to applying Paint Protect. With my other water tests I've performed (NXT 2.0, TW's ICE Paste and Liquid Waxes, Meguiar's Ultimate Paste Wax), I've had the opportunity to test whether or not IPA or a cleaner product like P21s Paint Cleanser made a difference in the curing process and if the repellency was affected whether or not the IPA or cleanser were applied after removing the mechanical light polish I used beforehand, and I did not notice a difference in the outcome. However, since I'm still playing around with Paint Protect, I'll see if I can track down some IPA and head over to a new section of the car to see if I notice a difference while using it. It's definitely possible that any oils left behind from M205 can affect the curing process, but my results with the other sealants/waxes leave me with the impression that a chemical cleaner prior to application won't affect the results (at least with those products I tested before) and I largely don't normally use IPA prior to putting on my LSP. One problem for me is not having my buffers available to compound and polish like I was able to while I tested those other products to effectively give me that ideal and fresh surface prior to testing this product. I can only wash and use an Autoscrub sponge and then use M205 by hand to prep the car which leaves a smooth surface but it's not 100% ideal for testing. If I see any difference using the IPA prior to application, I'll let you know.
 
Nice vid, Loach! I've seen your others as well. Great stuff.
 
IPA wipe definitely seems to be the missing link here. If they're promoting "beads like crazy" and a year durability id expect more than what your video showed. M205 leaves behind plenty of oils.

-Beach
 
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BeachZone said:
IPA wipe definitely seems to be the missing link here. If they're promoting "beads like crazy" and a year durability id expect more than what your video showed. M205 leaves behind plenty of oils.

-Beach
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I just completed another test, this time after applying M205 by hand I decided to use an IPA wipedown (20% IPA mixture) prior to applying Paint Protect and the comparison ICE Liquid Wax. I'm not seeing a difference in the outcome in the way the products behave after wetting which is what I was expecting.

You can definitely tell with how the water behaves that there's something on the paint. It certainly beads water up, I went out and set my sprayer to the mist pattern and I got a picture of that. I applied some Paint Protect to some very slightly textured plastic trim, and the beading is tighter on this trim than on the paint. Which is what I noticed the first time around and that made me wonder if something about the paint is affecting the results. So I got a shot of that plastic trim after misting as well.

Paint Protect / ICE Liquid Wax - Mist beading:

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Paint Protect on slight textured trim - Mist beading:

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At this point I can test drying times before wiping off to see if that affects anything. Although both the trim and the paint were given the same drying and cure times. All testing that I've done leads me to believe that this is a sheeting style LSP on paint like many of their other products. I'm still looking forward to hearing feedback and results from other users.

Few other notes: when I tracked down some IPA and tested it, like I noticed with my other product testing, an IPA spray alone will barely affect anything with either of these products. I could not even tell a difference in the surface tension after spraying and wiping with IPA and then rinsing again. After applying M205 by hand and then rinsing, surface tension changed completely, leaving me to believe that it adequately alters, if not completely removes both products even without a buffer. And once I dried the car after that rinsing, I went over everything with IPA and removed using microfiber and went straight to product application.

Also, when removing Paint Protect, it certainly appears as if it will leave slight residue as if you can't get it all off. But I believe after a certain point this residue will evaporate itself. This car is light blue, I still haven't noticed streaking in the sun, those with black cars will have to test to confirm. So if you take it off and are surprised that it's not buffing out 100% clean, give it some time to work its way out and then come back for a wipe test to see if there's any residue left. When I do water tests I won't use any other product to facilitate in removing any excess product that remains after wiping off - I don't want to alter the surface tension of the original product.
 
Great review and follow-up, thanks so much. Can't wait to try it out myself.
 
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