meguiars Ultamate liquid wax or NXT texh wax

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Hey guys,


My truck is a couple of months old and I want to use a paint sealant. My local shop has both the Meguiars ultimate wax and the nxt. Is one better that the other.

thanks

pvs
 
Ultimate wax lasts longer between the two.
 
I prefer the Ultimate Liquid Wax over the Tech wax. However, Tech wax isn't crappy by comparison.
 
I would not consider either product a true "sealant"
 
I would not consider either product a true "sealant"

Curious why you say this?? I'm not a Megs fan in any way, but tried a sample of Ultimate Liquid Wax and was very impressed. Great gloss and durability. It's my understanding ULW is a pure sealant, basically the OTC version of M21.
 
Curious why you say this?? I'm not a Megs fan in any way, but tried a sample of Ultimate Liquid Wax and was very impressed. Great gloss and durability. It's my understanding ULW is a pure sealant, basically the OTC version of M21.


It is a good product, but it doesn't meet my definition of a sealant, which is similar to this:

Carnauba Car Wax vs. Paint Sealants, carnauba wax reviews, paint sealant reviews


I do not think ULW and M21 are the same product

I have applied UPW and M21, but have not seen any of the vehicles ever again. They were all down at Meguiar's TNOG.

The M21 smells different, too


I could be wrong, though. Interested to hear from someone who has experience with both
 
Do a bit more research. In all honesty you can do better than either of those products and not spend a fortune. Duragloss #105 comes to my mind immediately. Cheap, light cleaning properties, and a long lasting sealant. That's assuming, like all sealants, that it is applied to a pristine surface.
 
Hey guys,


My truck is a couple of months old and I want to use a paint sealant. My local shop has both the Meguiars ultimate wax and the nxt. Is one better that the other.

thanks

pvs

I personally never found either of those products to exibit any decent longevity down here in Florida. I get about 3-4 months of good beading and nearly 6 months of over all protection from Blackfire Wet Diamond AFP in Florida, and it blasted me with rain today as it looks to for the whole week and it just rolled right off. Ease of use, application and removal is excellent too.
 
The good point about ULW is that you will not let any residue on plastic trim, etc.

Other than that it can be applied under the sun but shade is always preferable, it's easy on and easy off, also Meguiar's did their best to make a liquid version with the 'benefits of paste wax', if you can abstract what I meant.

In Brazil a bottle of ULW goes for more than $100, so you can get one at AG with coupons etc for less than $20, it's very good shot.

I like Ultimate Wax (both versions) more than NXT, but like stated above, NXT is also good product and I was very sold on it when I tried.

Durability is not the strong point of both products (at least in my experience), which for me turns it into The Wax for who likes to wax often.

Hope that helps,

Kind Regards.
 
It is a good product, but it doesn't meet my definition of a sealant, which is similar to this:

Carnauba Car Wax vs. Paint Sealants, carnauba wax reviews, paint sealant reviews
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Re: Is Ultimate Wax a sealant?

"Yes, it is a 100% synthetic formula."

Mike Pennington
Director of Training and Consumer Relations
Meguiar's, Inc.
800-854-8073
[email protected]
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For the record...

"NXT Tech Wax and M21 Synthetic Sealant are both paint sealants as both are made from all synthetic or man-made ingredients."

Mike Phillips
Office: 800-869-3011 x206
[email protected]
"Find something you like and use it often"
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Bob
 
Hey guys,


My truck is a couple of months old and I want to use a paint sealant. My local shop has both the Meguiars ultimate wax and the nxt. Is one better that the other.

thanks

pvs

They're both synthetic products. Ultimate liquid wax is just newer and better. According to Meguiars, it's supposed to last longer, have better hydrophobic properties, is easier to apply and remove ie. Can be used in direct sunlight and won't stain vinyl/trim etc.

Now all things are not equal (cars, weather, location) so people may have different experiences with both products. If you only want to choose between the two, and the price has no issue, go with the ultimate wax.
 
Great info FUN

I just don't think of them as in the same class as the modern stuff like Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant

Here is Mike P's thread over on Meguiar's Online. Some good info:

Is it a wax? Or a paint sealant?
 
Curious why you say this?? I'm not a Megs fan in any way, but tried a sample of Ultimate Liquid Wax and was very impressed. Great gloss and durability. It's my understanding ULW is a pure sealant, basically the OTC version of M21.

NXT and M21 are somewhat related to each other. UW has no euivalent in the professional lines.

I have actually used all three. All of have worked fairly well for me. I'm in southern california and all things being equal here is my estimate on durability. M21/NXT (~4-5 months) and UW (~6 months). This of course will vary by area. UW will not stain trim and is more hydrophibic than M21 or NXT. All three bead very well.

The application is also a little different. M21 and NXT both need to haze before being removed. UW can be removed after about 3-5 minutes when applied panel per panel or it can be applied to the entire car and removed right after. UW uses their latest technology.

You can't go wrong with either one.
 
Great info FUN

I just don't think of them as in the same class as the modern stuff like Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant

Here is Mike P's thread over on Meguiar's Online. Some good info:

Is it a wax? Or a paint sealant?

So based upon that, NXT 2.0, M21 and ULW are certainly paint sealants. They all use cross linking polymers and are 100% man made. I would even venture to say ULW is a t least as modern as WDG 3.0.

Like what you want to like, no issue with that. I prefer DG and Collinite products to Megs for LSP's, but please don't spread false information.
 
Great info FUN

I just don't think of them as in the same class as the modern stuff like Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant
Thanks!

-NXT 2.0 and ULW are NOT that old!! LOL!!


Bob
 
Both are really easy to use. Ultimate should technically last longer, it will give tighter beads and faster sheeting in the short term. When I tested NXT 2.0, it behaved like a sheeting wax the moment I put water on it after the curing period. Ultimate Liquid begins to have tight beads and quick sheeting but shifts to a sheeting style after extended wetting after the curing period. That's according to my testing, people in different environments may get different results. There are other products that hold their surface tension properties longer, but Meguiar's admits to preferring their products to sheet water rather than ultra tight beading. Neither are bad products, I enjoy and use both regularly and they look great.
 
So based upon that, NXT 2.0, M21 and ULW are certainly paint sealants. They all use cross linking polymers and are 100% man made. I would even venture to say ULW is a t least as modern as WDG 3.0.

Like what you want to like, no issue with that. I prefer DG and Collinite products to Megs for LSP's, but please don't spread false information.[/QUOTE]

What I said was, "I don't think of the as in the same class as the modern stuff"

That is an opinion, expressed by me about NXT and ULW, not M21, which I think of as a sealant

Everything I said was clearly expressed as my opinion
 
Understood. No issues there. Some background though, Ultimate Liquid and Paste wax are actually the newer sealants from Meg's. They are a clean sheet design from 2011 or 2012.

NXT 2.0 and M 21 2.0 are much older designs. They are almost exactly the same product except M21 was made to be applied with a rotary as well as a DA. NXT is DA only.

I think what might be throwing you off is the term "wax" with both Ultimate and NXT.
 
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