Menzerna Finishing Glaze

I did a review on a sample of this stuff Meghan sent me a while ago. Wolfgang DGPS will work over top of the sealant. But it doesn't really fill swirls all that well as compared to some cleaner/filler waxes. It seems to add more of a shine than fill capacity. In all honesty I'd say skip it!
 
lets provide our thoughts, examples, and supporting info as best as we can and move forward. Sometimes there seems to be more of an underlying war with each other versus the actual post.

I for one have seen a glaze (RMG) add to a properly polished car, and enhance the LSP Pinnacle Souveran Paste. I think it added more wetness but then again its based upon my personal observations. The glaze was used not for filling but for its glossing and wetting agents based upon past recommendations from forum.
 
the simple anwser to this is to accept the fact that a pure polish does make a difference, Number 7 for example does wonders on black paint when applied to the vechile. Its an optional step but in the end you benefit from it
 
megsuser91 said:
the simple anwser to this is to accept the fact that a pure polish does make a difference, Number 7 for example does wonders on black paint when applied to the vechile. Its an optional step but in the end you benefit from it
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Actually it is not the simple answer and it does not always make a difference. If you take a perfectly polished vehicle it will not add a thing. You can only do so much until you hit your max gloss level and when you do this nothing will enhance the shine, it will only haze or cloud your finish. Now if you just wash your vehicle over say a month or two and provide no protection I would agree that a glaze would help the gloss level, but if you polish the vehicle correctly and perform correct upkeep you will not need glaze or for you strict Meguiar guys a pure polish. I would agree with you guys about 15-20 years ago, we used #7 all the time on the custom paint work, but now with the polish technology of late with very good rotary skills glaze is not needed.
 
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veyronracer91 said:
I bought the finishing glaze because if the P203 didn't finish out as nicely as Menzerna says it does, I could apply the glaze to fill in the slight amount of haze temporarily, and then pick up a proper finishing polish at a later date. I didn't want to spend $50 on Menzerna Nano polish just yet, especially if the P203 burnishes the paint like it should. The glaze was only $22.99, so I figured it was cheap insurance if the P203 didn't turn out the way I wanted. I didn't expect it to be permanent, and I don't expect it to stay in my detailing inventory too long if it doesn't do anything.

I'm still trying to figure out if a sealant will stick to this stuff or not. I guess I'll apply the glaze everywhere except my truck lid, and see if there's any difference in longevity of the sealant.

But just to add my own two cents to this debate, if adding products to a perfectly polished surface doesn't enhance the shine or glow at all, then why do people apply carnauba waxes to enhance the paint appearance? It seems to me like the oil in glazes would have some of this same effect to bring out the shine.
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My opinion is, if your going to do the second step. Use the 87MC or 85RD, as this will finish down what the 203 didn't. Instead of hiding it with the glaze. Both the 85RD and 87MC are both not that much money. Then in-between polishes use the glaze to enhance the paint.
 
veyronracer91 said:
I was curious about Menzerna Finishing Glaze, so I threw a bottle into my last order, and had a couple questions about it. I've been reading up on glazes in general, and I've been hearing that sealants don't adhere very well after using a glaze. My process was going to be:

Menzerna Power Finish
Menzerna Finishing Glaze
Wolfgang DGPS 3.0
Pinnacle Souveran Paste

Autogeek's website says to apply a water based sealant (i.e. DGPS 3.0) over the glaze, but I've been hearing conflicting opinions on this in other forums. Would I have any problems applying a sealant over the finishing glaze? Thanks in advance!
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There is absolutely no problems applying the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant over the Menzerna Finishing Glaze. I have used this combo numerous times with no streaking or smearing at all.

When you use a glaze like Menzerna's Finishing Glaze, it does contain oils and fillers, this helps the product hide and fill in imperfections that you are not removing 100% and the oils may cause the sealant not to last as long.

Glazes have been around for years and are mostly used in car shows when the owner wants the appearance to look perfect. Since these cars are usually garage kept and transported by trailer, durability is usually secondary in importance to looks. The best looking car wins at car shows.

If you are looking for maximum durability with Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, I would suggest using the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze, also made by Menzerna, because it is free of oils and fillers. It polishes like a super-fine jewelers rouge and you can expect maximum durability from the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.
 
A glaze right after polishing, probobly not alot of addition in the looks dept. A glaze 1 month after a polish, I can see difference for sure
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
lets provide our thoughts, examples, and supporting info as best as we can and move forward. Sometimes there seems to be more of an underlying war with each other versus the actual post.

I for one have seen a glaze (RMG) add to a properly polished car, and enhance the LSP Pinnacle Souveran Paste. I think it added more wetness but then again its based upon my personal observations. The glaze was used not for filling but for its glossing and wetting agents based upon past recommendations from forum.
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"These guys are kidding, they are friends."
 
Dwayne said:
If you are looking for maximum durability with Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, I would suggest using the Wolfgang Finishing Glaze, also made by Menzerna, because it is free of oils and fillers. It polishes like a super-fine jewelers rouge and you can expect maximum durability from the Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant.
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That sounds more like a finishing polish than a glaze. I figure in my next purchase I'll get some Menzerna SIP and Nano polishes.

Thanks for the help guys!
 
I used the Menzerna Glaze on a 10 year old Pontiac that was covered in tree sap when I got it. My steps were, scream, spray Goo Gone over entire car, drink a beer, scrub with hot water and Dawn with a soft brush, Menzerna IP on an orange LC pad via rotary, Menzerna Glaze, Megs #26 wax. The owner was amazed, the car actually looked new and had a shine where before it looked like an old Navy ship.

Glazes have there places. On beaters where the owner wants a one step polish and wax, a glaze is a quick way to add a lot of dept and gloss. Like Killer said about RMG - it adds a lot to the looks of a detail. I understand the whole polish to perfection - jewel the paint line of thought, but I have yet to meet the customer that wanted or would pay for that level of service. The cars I get are daily drivers, mid range stuff that the owner just wants cleaned and waxed, a glaze sometimes gives that extra wow.

That said, I'm starting to do more new cars that folks buy and want me to take care of from the start. These are pretty easy as they just need a wash, clay and mild polish. On these I've switched to Zaino for the looks and durability, and get them on a 6-8 week maintenance plan.
 
If you plan on cutting some corners then a glaze is the way to go.
 
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