you guys realize some of the pros do love detailing as a whole and not just for a dollar, me for one i'm in it to make money but i LOVE doing it for my own use. so my thoughts come from both sides of the fence, as my signature says detailing is not just a hobby but a passion for some of us and it don't matter if were working on a customers vehicle or our own we want products that work great, and increase time. i for one even personally will not use zaino products, they look like rebadged duragloss products anyways and i cannot stand sal zaino's thought process its totally skewed so i wont use their products. but saying a pro cant offer advice to a hobbyist is just plain ignorant, not all pro's just do it for money a lot love doing it getting paid or not...your steamer comment makes no sense, all good steamers cost atl east 100$ and i for one love mine, its so useful around the house it pays for itself again and again, then again nothing is cheap anymore so for an electronically operated tool most of the time your going to pay 75-100$ for it, gotta remember some hobbyists pay 300$ for a tin of wax so a steamer is nothing to them. and to me nothing is the best, its all personal preference on what works the best for your situation and trying to spread the knowledge to others. also, to say take a pro's comments with a grain of salt is really ignorant, why tell people to stop learning? seriously? what logical sense does that make? if someone is trying to help listen to their comments, absorb the needed information and dispose of the rest, all of us here are trying to help each other so to say take a pro's comments with a grain of salt just because hes a pro is not logical. as i said most of us here are here to help others and learn more or teach others more about this one thing that brings a community together. if your not going to take any advice or see all advice as negative just dont participate in discussion forums of any kind...and thats my 2 cents.