Menzerna v Meguiars

[TundraPower]

...M101? Arguably cuts harder, finishes nicer, and works faster than FG400. M205? One of the most versatile polishes on the market? I see what you're getting at, but a Pinto to a Porsche? Come on now. Maybe a GT500 to a Porsche.

For the record PF2500 is in my wish list right now, but Meg's deserves far more credit than association with a Pinto.

I just really don't like 105/205. Finicky, inconsistent, and temperamental results. I didn't say you can't get great results with them, others obviously do. But I want polish systems that produce predictable and consistent results almost every time. You can beat Menzerna for that, especially PF2500. Okay, may Pinto was a little harsh. I will upgrade to Honda Civic SI.

 

[hernandez.art13]

I just really don't like 105/205. Finicky, inconsistent, and temperamental results. I didn't say you can't get great results with them, others obviously do. But I want polish systems that produce predictable and consistent results almost every time. You can beat Menzerna for that, especially PF2500. Okay, may Pinto was a little harsh. I will upgrade to Honda Civic SI.

I like how you added the "SI" lol

 

[2old2change]

I got a smile on my face as I read the five pages on this thread. Years ago I started on MOL w/Mike Phillips and got familiar with Meguiars products. This being about 2005 or 6 which was before M105,M205 and mf pads. I compare detailing products to the tools I have in my tool box. One starts out with a basic set like a adjustable wrench , hammer and screw driver. You eventually find these won't work on every job you come across. A need for special wrenches and tools arise. Detailing is very similar. As we encounter different paint surfaces and level of defects the tools we need to correct the paint require different products outside of the basics we have. On a daily basis I come across different conditions that if I stuck to only one brand I would be either wasting time or not able to fully correct the problem. For those of you that only work on you personal car you can dial in a process or product. Unfortunate for those of us that do this for cash , we don't have that luxury. I try and narrow down what I have on my shelf but at the moment there are probably 5 or 6 major brands. So limit yourself to one brand or spread out and use the best thing for the subject at hand at any given time.

 

[ChrisJ]

Test them both out...For me my paint does not like megs line but works really well with menzerna...

 

[kevincwelch]

Test them both out...For me my paint does not like megs line but works really well with menzerna...

That's what I'm going to do. I guess I have that luxury since I'm only going to detail two cars and nothing more. And that's why I posted -- it was more related to my needs rather than a general question. It will be nice to spot test both brands.

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[ChrisJ]

That's what I'm going to do. I guess I have that luxury since I'm only going to detail two cars and nothing more. And that's why I posted -- it was more related to my needs rather than a general question. It will be nice to spot test both brands.

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Spot test them both...Myself I love FG400 on a MF pad followed up with 4500 on a blue since the honda paint is so soft...

 

[hernandez.art13]

Now I am excited to hear the differences

 

[vegas911gts]

Menz and it's not even close. But for my personal cars I use scholls concepts s3 gold and sonax perfect finish. 105 and 205 are ok, but highly overrated.

 

[jimjc]

I just really don't like 105/205. Finicky, inconsistent, and temperamental results. I didn't say you can't get great results with them, others obviously do. But I want polish systems that produce predictable and consistent results almost every time. You can beat Menzerna for that, especially PF2500. Okay, may Pinto was a little harsh. I will upgrade to Honda Civic SI.

Did it ever occur to you that you may not have the expertise to handle 105/205, just asking because there`s a lot of people that get great results...:doh:

 

[Meticulous-Detail]

I got a smile on my face as I read the five pages on this thread. Years ago I started on MOL w/Mike Phillips and got familiar with Meguiars products. This being about 2005 or 6 which was before M105,M205 and mf pads. I compare detailing products to the tools I have in my tool box. One starts out with a basic set like a adjustable wrench , hammer and screw driver. You eventually find these won't work on every job you come across. A need for special wrenches and tools arise. Detailing is very similar. As we encounter different paint surfaces and level of defects the tools we need to correct the paint require different products outside of the basics we have. On a daily basis I come across different conditions that if I stuck to only one brand I would be either wasting time or not able to fully correct the problem. For those of you that only work on you personal car you can dial in a process or product. Unfortunate for those of us that do this for cash , we don't have that luxury. I try and narrow down what I have on my shelf but at the moment there are probably 5 or 6 major brands. So limit yourself to one brand or spread out and use the best thing for the subject at hand at any given time.

+1 :xyxthumbs:

Menz and it's not even close. But for my personal cars I use scholls concepts s3 gold and sonax perfect finish. 105 and 205 are ok, but highly overrated.

Love reading your post, always give me a good chuckle. Please elaborate how it's not even close and 105/205 are overrated.

Did it ever occur to you that you may not have the expertise to handle 105/205, just asking because there`s a lot of people that get great results...:doh:

+1:xyxthumbs:

When we talk about Megs it's always 105/205. What about D300/D301, D151, M101, the rest of the mirror glaze line, how about UC and UP?

D300 pleasure to use, UC/UP underrated, D151 never seen an AIO this good (excluding protection)....................etc.

I currently use Megs, Menz and Optimum and will be sticking with these and perfecting my technique, process and pad selection with these products.

 

[Durallymax]

I think you need a variety of brands to cover everything. Just like tools.

I love my shiney snap on wrenches but my Knipex pliers and Wiha drivers are way nicer than anything snappy makes and cheaper too.

Menzerna has treated me well. I dont get along well with PG1000 but FG400 is a godsend for the stuff I do. PF2500 is a great one step and both SF4000 & SF4500 finish down nicely. I havent used my SIP1500 enough to really grt a good feel for it.

Menz is more money though and not readily availablr at the local body shop supply places.

 

[Mike PhillipsMike Phillips is verified member.]

I use both brands the reason for that is not every paint is not the same and I don't believe limiting your self to one brand but that just me.

I agree. That's why it's not only good to have a variety of different brands in your tool box which is also a way of saying different abrasive technologies, but also different tools and pads.

I can't count how many times someone has started a thread on this forum stating,

As hard as I try, I just can't finish down hologram free using only a rotary buffer"


Hmmm... maybe it's not you? Maybe it's the paint and maybe try using a different tool?

I got a smile on my face as I read the five pages on this thread. Years ago I started on MOL w/Mike Phillips and got familiar with Meguiars products. This being about 2005 or 6 which was before M105,M205 and mf pads.

Seems like such a long time ago when M80 and M83 were the "Twins" to have along with thick foam pads and the first generation Porter Cable DA Polishes. And while back then this was a pretty good combo technology has raced ahead with more and more pads and products and even tools to enable a person to get pro results without any or very little experience.

I compare detailing products to the tools I have in my tool box. One starts out with a basic set like a adjustable wrench , hammer and screw driver. You eventually find these won't work on every job you come across. A need for special wrenches and tools arise.

Detailing is very similar. As we encounter different paint surfaces and level of defects the tools we need to correct the paint require different products outside of the basics we have. On a daily basis I come across different conditions that if I stuck to only one brand I would be either wasting time or not able to fully correct the problem.

For those of you that only work on you personal car you can dial in a process or product. Unfortunate for those of us that do this for cash , we don't have that luxury.

I try and narrow down what I have on my shelf but at the moment there are probably 5 or 6 major brands. So limit yourself to one brand or spread out and use the best thing for the subject at hand at any given time.

Well said Paul...


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