Metro MasterBlaster 8hp vs Leaf Blower

HighFive said:
How long did you leave it running?
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Not long, maybe 5 minutes while I blew the leaves from the cowl panel and under the hood. I switched back to the 20 amp circuit (with GFCI) when I dried the car.

As for using the blaster on wet ground as mentioned earlier in this thread, I moved the car to a dry part of the driveway when I dried it.
 
HighFive said:
How long did you leave it running?

Household breakers have both a thermal and a magnetic trip function. The thermal function trips when the breaker heats up due to a continious overload and often takes some time to trip. Depending on the amount of overload it may be a few seconds or take several minutes. The breaker is designed to trip before any wires heat up to the point of melting which is why someone should NEVER just change out to a higher rated breaker without upgrading the wires.

The magnetic trip function trips due to the increase in the magnetic field around the circuit at the breaker. This is a very fast trip but takes a lot of current to increase the magnetic field enough such as a dead short. Electric motors have a momentary spike at startup which is the Locked Rotor Amp (LRA) rating. Most household motors such as sump pumps, vacuums, and refrigeraters exceed a breakers AMP rating at startup but it is not high enough or long enough to trip the breaker and is perfectly safe. Turning on both motors at the exactly the same time was high enough to induce the magnetic trip.

I agree that you really need a 20 AMP circuit for the Master Blaster.
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I turned both switches on at the same time and it probably ran the MB for at least 15 minutes continually. As I use it more often, I'm sure I can cut that time down quite a bit.

Now that I think about it, my cord cap at the outlet end and a few inches of cord was slighly warm when I unplugged it. I assumed it was heat from the light bulb near by. Now I'm having my doubts. Some experimenting will be required.
 
HighFive said:
How long did you leave it running?
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My garage was wired for 20A but when we had some remodeling done the electrician moved the circuit to a 15A breaker. It took about 3 to 4 minutes to trip the 15A breaker.

I moved the circuit back to a 20A breaker but it already had a separate 20A GCFI outlet in the first outlet in the circuit.
 
toycar18 said:
And amp up the speed to 200mph and it will really move. The velocity on a leaf blower is very high when compared to the cfm. 700cfm isn't that much compared to 200mph velocity. If it was all CFM you could just take an air mover that has a 3 times the CFM with 30mph velocity and it doesn't work like leaf blower because it needs more velocity.

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I never said that speed (velocity) wasn't important but that CFM was more important for blowing leaves. You don't have to believe me but you may want to take a look at this or do your own search. Leaf Blowers - CFM vs MPH | Backpack Leaf Blowers

We will just have to agree to disagree.
 
Bunky said:
My garage was wired for 20A but when we had some remodeling done the electrician moved the circuit to a 15A breaker. It took about 3 to 4 minutes to trip the 15A breaker.

I moved the circuit back to a 20A breaker but it already had a separate 20A GCFI outlet in the first outlet in the circuit.
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It makes it so much easier to troubleshoot if an outlet/receptacle is labeled.


-A GFCI protected outlet/receptacle, with an equipment ground, should have a: "GFCI Protected" label.

-A GFCI protected outlet/receptacle with no equipment ground must get the: "GFCI Protected, No Equipment Ground" label.

NOTE:
1.) Depending on the region one resides, electrical codes may or may not require this "labeling".....Still a good idea, IMO, to not have to hunt & peck for a tripped circuit.
2.) Might be a good idea if the GFCI isn't near the protected outlets.

:)

Bob
 
You guys are going to have to let the CFM MPH go. The numbers mean nothing, use both and then you will know what works better.

My leaf blower seems to move leaves better, but the MB gets water out of hidden locations better. Being totally honest, if it were not for my tail light bezels, spoiler, door handles, wheels and grille area, I'd just use the Toro. But I hate washing and drying my car, taking it out for a drive and then finding newly kicked up dust/dirt stuck to water runs.
 
IndeedSS said:
You guys are going to have to 1.) let the CFM MPH go. The numbers mean nothing, 2.) use both and then you will know what works better.
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1.) I can't be apologetic that I brought up the CFM MPH issue...It just seemed, to me, an appropriate topic for discussion purposes, when it comes to the OP's initial question.
2.) Let me give the client, oops, customer service reps at AGO a call and check on their return policy for "used electrical equipment".


Don't know if my reason for requesting a return of this nature (if it is true).....
"IMHO....My X-Branded leaf blower seems to outperform the MB in the water-moving, aid-in-drying category!"
.....would be acceptable or not.


Either that...Or perhaps borrowing somebody's MB before I spring for an MB purchase?

:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
1.) I can't be apologetic that I brought up the CFM MPH issue...It just seemed, to me, an appropriate topic for discussion purposes, when it comes to the OP's initial question.
2.) Let me give the client, oops, customer service reps at AGO a call and check on their return policy for "used electrical equipment".


Don't know if my reason for requesting a return of this nature (if it is true).....
"IMHO....My X-Branded leaf blower seems to outperform the MB in the water-moving, aid-in-drying category!"
.....would be acceptable or not.


Either that...Or perhaps borrowing somebody's MB before I spring for an MB purchase?

:)

Bob
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The CFM and MPH subject should have been a great thing to be added to a thread about drying equipment, if only for reference.

If you lived close enough that I didn't have to ship, I'd let you borrow my Master Blaster. It is a big ticket item and not something to be purchased without a lot of thought. Like I said, had it not been for problem areas on my car, the leaf blower would have been fine.
 
IndeedSS said:
I turned both switches on at the same time and it probably ran the MB for at least 15 minutes continually. As I use it more often, I'm sure I can cut that time down quite a bit.

Now that I think about it, my cord cap at the outlet end and a few inches of cord was slighly warm when I unplugged it. I assumed it was heat from the light bulb near by. Now I'm having my doubts. Some experimenting will be required.
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You may have exceeded the rating for the outlet and/or the contact points may be somewhat corroded creating resistance and heat.

Awhile back my wife complained about a smell everytime she used the clothes dryer. I ignored her at first :bash: but finally I looked behind the dryer and was horrified to see that the plug and receptacle (240 volts) was black and showed signs of burning and melting. The receptacle was the proper size but the contacts had corroded. Replaced the dryer plug and the outlet and was good to go.
 
CaneMustang said:
I saw a LIVE demo of the Metro 8hp that was heated at SEMA - that is my next purchase. I was amazed!!! Powerful little machine
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lol... my wife is convinced i need one as a christmas gift since seeing them at sema.

i'm still not sure.
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
 
does anyone have both the MB and the vac n blo?
how do they compare if just 1 motor is on for the mb?
 
604_Snooze said:
does anyone have both the MB and the vac n blo?
how do they compare if just 1 motor is on for the mb?
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Best bet would be to contact MB about this. But I wouldn't use the same unit that is used to vacuum dirt to blow off my freshly washed car. I have a Dirt Devil Little Devil vacuum/blower and know that the filter does a great job keeping dirt trapped. Of course the filter is removed before using as a blower, but still I couldn't do it to my car. But that's just me.
 
IndeedSS said:
............But I wouldn't use the same unit that is used to vacuum dirt to blow off my freshly washed car. I have a Dirt Devil Little Devil vacuum/blower and know that the filter does a great job keeping dirt trapped. Of course the filter is removed before using as a blower, but still I couldn't do it to my car. But that's just me.
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:iagree:

And... i think.. MB 8hp will be very expensive for a drying aid only..
 
How about this one?
metro blaster sidekick vs leaf blower for drying
 
atoy said:
:iagree:

And... i think.. MB 8hp will be very expensive for a drying aid only..
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I agree. If it wasn't needed I wouldn't have gotten it. The curse of the daily driven black car.
 
atoy said:
How about this one?
metro blaster sidekick vs leaf blower for drying
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That is more for motorcycles and small jobs. It would take forever to dry a car and I have my doubts about effective it would be at removing water from tail light bezels, which is the worst place on my car.
 
IndeedSS said:
That is more for motorcycles and small jobs. It would take forever to dry a car and I have my doubts about effective it would be at removing water from tail light bezels, which is the worst place on my car.
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I think BobbyG has experience using the sidekick. Any recommendation BobbyG Feed back please
 
It seems i does the job better than a leaf blower
and the price is almost the same as ny black and decker leaf blower
 
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