Mobile Rinseless Wash

Jeremyblevins said:
I'm sorry but what is your experience in this? Not trying to dis you but you don't seem to have been a member here very long or with many posts. I have no problem investing in microfiber towels. I have a ton of the Costco towels and some supreme shine towels. But why in the world would any Business owner invest $75 in 9 Chinchilla towels when $3 worth of sponges will do 90% of the work? Not to mention with the towels if i wanted to do two cars in a day i would have to wash them in-between, which isn't very quick with my washer and dryer, or by another set. So two cars would be $150? cost of the sponges still $3. As for larger equipment i've already invested in the Meguiars MT300 and foam pads. I also have the DA microfiber kit. I have an old harbor freight vacuum that i'm using for now until i work up enough profit in the company to purchase the rigid WD4070 and auto detailing kit. Please if there's something flawed in my thinking let me know. :xyxthumbs:
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Supreme Shine towels are good quality but you'll definitely need better to run a business. But as someone who has been a member of this forum for a while and someone who works in a detail shop, I can say that if the cost of better towels is a hindrance, then you should search long and hard for distributors with lower prices and/or buy in bulk. My own personal closet has 30x 530 GSM, 50x 360 GSM towels, other specialty towels, microfiber mitts, Home Depot sponges, Lowe's sponges, DP turbo dryer, Metro Sidekick, and I'm not even talking about the amount of pads I have (don't feel like counting but a lot) my Porter Cable and GG6. I also have 72x Costco towels.

I don't feel comfortable starting a detail business with that. It's one thing to just offer wash services, but I'm curious what your stock of supplies is if you're offering correction services too! I have Menzerna polishes, Meguiar's polishes, and HD polishes and like I said many pads for the many different paints I may deal with.

My suggestion is to simply dismiss someone's opinion if you don't like it. No need to try and defend yourself when you are also relatively new to the game of owning a detailing business and asking for people's opinions.

Hopefully I didn't make any mistakes.... I hate doing long posts from my phone.
 
Jeremyblevins said:
Thanks. Yeah I'll test the sponge out on my car and see how I feel about them. I will absolutely take you up on the sample offer. Thank you! I'm a big fan of Meguiar's products. After I burn through my ONR I plan on buying D114 from there. If I use any kind of drying aid it will be D156. Not sure if I'll include the spray wax in the basic package or as an upgrade.
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Always an upgrade if it's not built in. Build value in the basic wash then upsell extras. Spray wax, regular wax, glass treatment such as Duragloss Rain Repel or Rain X. Never discount your service, if necessary toss in an extra to close a deal. Shoot me your address for the sample.
 
Jeremyblevins said:
I'm sorry but what is your experience in this? Not trying to dis you but you don't seem to have been a member here very long or with many posts. I have no problem investing in microfiber towels. I have a ton of the Costco towels and some supreme shine towels. But why in the world would any Business owner invest $75 in 9 Chinchilla towels when $3 worth of sponges will do 90% of the work? Not to mention with the towels if i wanted to do two cars in a day i would have to wash them in-between, which isn't very quick with my washer and dryer, or by another set. So two cars would be $150? cost of the sponges still $3. As for larger equipment i've already invested in the Meguiars MT300 and foam pads. I also have the DA microfiber kit. I have an old harbor freight vacuum that i'm using for now until i work up enough profit in the company to purchase the rigid WD4070 and auto detailing kit. Please if there's something flawed in my thinking let me know. :xyxthumbs:
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I didn't realize the number of posts represents what someone knows. Did it occur that I post on other forums?:xyxthumbs:

I work on the POS cars that others turn away so I'm getting some good experience. I started out small and frugal. I still use some second hand tools now until I see a need to upgrade.
My point was to inform you that there will be more costs associated with what you're doing. Last week I had a big demand for headlight polishing even though I wasn't focusing on that. I wasted time cleaning up my pads to be used again because I thought having 6 of each would be enough. That's time I could have been doing something else. I'm not telling you to get $75 towels. There are several out there that are cheaper but won't swirl like the cheapo's.
I started out doing waterless wash which can use more than rinse less.. I probably used one MF per panel and then 2 for glass and 2 for interior. Yes washing your towels in the middle of the day doesn't sound productive, but it's easy to fit 50 towels in your car.
I'll keep my tips for others who don't mind criticism.
Good luck.
 
Busy mind said:
I didn't realize the number of posts represents what someone knows. Did it occur that I post on other forums?:xyxthumbs:
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Sorry I didn't search the entirety of the internet for you. I apologize if I offended you. That's why i specifically said i'm not trying to dis you. I'm just honestly curious.

Busy mind said:
I work on the POS cars that others turn away so I'm getting some good experience. I started out small and frugal. I still use some second hand tools now until I see a need to upgrade.
My point was to inform you that there will be more costs associated with what you're doing. Last week I had a big demand for headlight polishing even though I wasn't focusing on that. I wasted time cleaning up my pads to be used again because I thought having 6 of each would be enough. That's time I could have been doing something else. I'm not telling you to get $75 towels. There are several out there that are cheaper but won't swirl like the cheapo's.
I started out doing waterless wash which can use more than rinse less.. I probably used one MF per panel and then 2 for glass and 2 for interior. Yes washing your towels in the middle of the day doesn't sound productive, but it's easy to fit 50 towels in your car.
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I understand that and I don't disagree with you. I'm just saying for washing cars the Chinchillas are just too expensive at the current rate. I choose them specifically because those seem to be the ones most people recommend. If you could so me some other towels that would work I would greatly appreciate it. I'm honestly trying to learn here.

Busy mind said:
I'll keep my tips for others who don't mind criticism.
Good luck.
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Seriously? We're all grown ups here. If i didn't respect your advise I would've ignored you. This is a discussion forum. I'm here to learn. If you don't want me questioning your advise and asking you why then you should be blogging, where people can't ask you questions. If you don't want to help me that's fine, please just don't respond then.
 
conman1395 said:
Supreme Shine towels are good quality but you'll definitely need better to run a business. But as someone who has been a member of this forum for a while and someone who works in a detail shop, I can say that if the cost of better towels is a hindrance, then you should search long and hard for distributors with lower prices and/or buy in bulk. My own personal closet has 30x 530 GSM, 50x 360 GSM towels, other specialty towels, microfiber mitts, Home Depot sponges, Lowe's sponges, DP turbo dryer, Metro Sidekick, and I'm not even talking about the amount of pads I have (don't feel like counting but a lot) my Porter Cable and GG6. I also have 72x Costco towels.

I don't feel comfortable starting a detail business with that. It's one thing to just offer wash services, but I'm curious what your stock of supplies is if you're offering correction services too! I have Menzerna polishes, Meguiar's polishes, and HD polishes and like I said many pads for the many different paints I may deal with.

My suggestion is to simply dismiss someone's opinion if you don't like it. No need to try and defend yourself when you are also relatively new to the game of owning a detailing business and asking for people's opinions.

Hopefully I didn't make any mistakes.... I hate doing long posts from my phone.
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I'm not going to dismiss someone's opinion as I asked for them. I'm here to learn not pretend I know better. As such I would like to have a discussion. May I ask why you feel that those towels you own wouldn't enough? Sorry if i offended you by questioning your opinion.
 
Jeremyblevins said:
Thanks! Luckily there was a nearby Lowes that had 17 of the Proline Multipurpose sponges 2-packs. I picked up two of them. I'll give them a try on my car today if it stops raining. Otherwise i'll try them in the morning.

So What do you use for wheels? I had just been using microfiber towels to clean them. I'm going to order the full suite of mother's brushes this weekend from amazon. I plan on scrubbing the tires with a tire brush and Meguiar's APC. Then for the wheels I would go one of two ways. If they are filthy I plan on getting Meguiar's Wheel Brightener spraying them down, Then scrubbing with the wheel brush soaked in the left over ONR. If the Wheels are aluminum or mildly dirty just hit them with the ONR spray bottle and then the wheel brush.
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I clean all wheels during a Rinseless Wash with Optimum Power Clean diluted 3:1. If the wheels are really dirty I use a brush. If the wheels are not too bad I use soft terry cloth towels on steel wheels and wheel wells. On polished alumimum wheels I clean them with Power Clean and a black microfiber towel. The Power Clean is safe on all surfaces.
 
Did I read correctly and did you mention in one of the posts that you charge $75 for an exterior Rinseless Wash?
 
Real Riders said:
Did I read correctly and did you mention in one of the posts that you charge $75 for an exterior Rinseless Wash?
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No you did not. lol. That was the price of 9 Chinchilla towels. I honestly haven't established a firm number in my head. Right now i'm floating at $69 based upon competitors for a quick exterior wash (tires dressed), then dusting the interior and a vacuum.
 
Jeremyblevins said:
No you did not. lol. That was the price of 9 Chinchilla towels. I honestly haven't established a firm number in my head. Right now i'm floating at $69 based upon competitors for a quick exterior wash (tires dressed), then dusting the interior and a vacuum.
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Sounds good. How long will that job take you to finish?
 
Jeremyblevins said:
Sorry if i offended you by questioning your opinion.
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Well acting childish sure doesn't solve anything, but the Supreme Shines aren't a very high GSM. Not high enough for everything. They should be okay for a Gary Dean method though.
 
conman1395 said:
Well acting childish sure doesn't solve anything, but the Supreme Shines aren't a very high GSM. Not high enough for everything. They should be okay for a Gary Dean method though.
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Please just leave if you're not going to be helpful. I never said I was going to use the Supreme Shines for the GDM. I'm not trying to sit here and argue. I'm just trying to learn.
 
Real Riders said:
I clean all wheels during a Rinseless Wash with Optimum Power Clean diluted 3:1. If the wheels are really dirty I use a brush. If the wheels are not too bad I use soft terry cloth towels on steel wheels and wheel wells. On polished alumimum wheels I clean them with Power Clean and a black microfiber towel. The Power Clean is safe on all surfaces.
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Have you had a chance to compare OPC to D101?
 
Jeremyblevins said:
Have you had a chance to compare OPC to D101?
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D101 seems like a much better deal. Do you use both and how do you like the D101? I heard the smell is very strong, even outside it will choke you. I also heard that D101 will foam up much better than Power Clean. Is this correct?
 
Meg D101 is great for the price.
OPC cleans a little better with 1:3,
I will compare it to Meg D108.
Both are great product.
The new DP high density apc look promising :)
 
Real Riders said:
D101 seems like a much better deal. Do you use both and how do you like the D101? I heard the smell is very strong, even outside it will choke you. I also heard that D101 will foam up much better than Power Clean. Is this correct?
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I haven't had a chance to use any all purpose cleaners except for over the counter stuff. I will be ordering some D101 soon though.
 
Mask said:
Meg D101 is great for the price.
OPC cleans a little better with 1:3,
I will compare it to Meg D108.
Both are great product.
The new DP high density apc look promising :)
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That's good to hear! Have you tried the D101 on painted surfaces for bug removal and such?
 
silverfox said:
If there's anything better than a Microfiber madness incredi-sponge for rinseless washing, I haven't found it. I dropped the use of MF towels 5 seconds after I wiped my first panel with one. They shed dirt like a conventional sponge, with the benefits of MF .
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i've been using incredimitts for a while now, but not the sponge. is the sponge inner material similar to the sponge material of the mitt? i know the exterior mf material is the same. the sponge inside the mitt is weird - it's very absorbant, but light and very flexible. and tough as hell. can't believe it hasn't degraded at all yet.
 
Jeremyblevins said:
That's good to hear! Have you tried the D101 on painted surfaces for bug removal and such?
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I tried it and I think meg D114/D115 will be better suit for bug removal.
For stubborn unknown dirt/bug/bird dropping, I use clay & polish then LSP.
I used D101 to remove collinite streak ,OPC did a better job here (both 1:2 ratio). Both can be use on paint but never let it dry, follow with a good wash & rinse.

Regards :)
 
Mask said:
I tried it and I think meg D114/D115 will be better suit for bug removal.
For stubborn unknown dirt/bug/bird dropping, I use clay & polish then LSP.
I used D101 to remove collinite streak ,OPC did a better job here (both 1:2 ratio). Both can be use on paint but never let it dry, follow with a good wash & rinse.

Regards :)
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Okay so i'll just stick with ONR and D114 for bugs and see if i run into any problems.
 
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