Most economical SiO2 coating spray?

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Wondering what the cheapest is out there. Looking to MAYBE use it as a topper on McKees 37 coating, but most definitely on the wheels primarily.
 
Actually, the most economical appears to be the gallon size of Gyeon Wet Coat. Elsewhere you can buy 5L of HydrLite for the absolute cheapest per mL.

I strongly believe they all last the same, so if you want to buy I bulk from AG, the 4L Wet Coat is a great deal.

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I have been using HydroFoam. I bought a liter on sale for about $27. I mix it 1:9 (3.2oz per 1 quart spray bottle). I use it mainly to wash the Opti-Coated wheels on my own cars. I have also washed a couple of cars using this HydroFoam spray formula.

So I should get 10 quart size bottles from it. All the Carpro SiO2 sprays are claiming 3 months durability so I don't think I am sacrificing anything, but I felt that Hydro2 had better beading. And it is a bit different since it is intended as a soap so there will be some wiping involved. This works out great for wheel maintenance cleaning.

I don't think any of the others can claim 10 quarts from a single 1 liter bottle at $27-32.
 
MrOneEyedBoh said:
Wondering what the cheapest is out there. Looking to MAYBE use it as a topper on McKees 37 coating, but most definitely on the wheels primarily.
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Synergistic Chemical Compatibility

Pick up a gallon of Hydro Blue. Autogeek is running a 20% off plus $6.95 sale over the weekend.

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Regular Price: $79.99
20% Off Discount: $63.99
With $6.95 Shipping: $70.94

That's a steal.

What are you waiting for? :dblthumb2:
 
That's a great deal. Nick, once opened, what kind of shelf life can we expect (roughly) as long as we're keeping the gallon in a stable temp range (80-90 deg)?

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Most economical would be to let the McKee's coating work without a topper, then reapply after if breaks down.
 
But my theory would be, if there is something on top of the coating then that topper would be sacrificial. Thus leading to a longer coating life span, no?
 
MrOneEyedBoh said:
But my theory would be, if there is something on top of the coating then that topper would be sacrificial. Thus leading to a longer coating life span, no?
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Is there any proof of that? There is a reason why you put the longest lasting lsp on the bottom. If not, then you could put a wax on first and a sealant on top and the sealant would make the wax last longer than the sealant, but it doesn't work that way.

By using your theory, you could do the same with wax. Put on paste wax and continually top with a spray wax every other week. You could theoretically make a coat of wax "last" infinately that way. My question would be, does the paste wax layer last longer, or is it's breaking dow hidden by the continual topping of spray wax?
 
PaulMys said:
Why so argumentative?
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If my views supported marketing, would you consider it argumentative? I come from a science background. If a theory is questionable and unsupported by data, you question it.

Yes, I'm skeptic of marketing claims.
 
Octopiston said:
If my views supported marketing, would you consider it argumentative? I come from a science background. If a theory is questionable and unsupported by data, you question it.

Yes, I'm skeptic of marketing claims.
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I don't consider anything when someone is rude and judgemental. Just saying you could be a little softer in your attitude here. This forum is to help people, not snap at them like their lack of knowledge is a bad thing.

Think.
 
PaulMys said:
I don't consider anything when someone is rude and judgemental. Just saying you could be a little softer in your attitude here. This forum is to help people, not snap at them like their lack of knowledge is a bad thing.

Think.
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I'm not snapping at anyone. I'm just giving my opinion and supporting said opinion with info and breaking it down to how it would be if a commonly held belief was applied to other products vs. giving opinion without any support. Yes, think....
If YOU read any attitude into my commemts, thats YOUR problem. I saw your little quip when you came in and first commented (that you edited.) Are my feelings hurt? Nope. I actually read it in a Yoda voice with the way it was written. I didn't read anything into it, but it could have easily been deemed as rude, so doesn't that make your soap box post a bit hypocritical though?

Here is another little piece of info. Coatings were out before the boosters with the same "up to" lifespan claims without boosters. But after boosters came on the market, it is said to get the long life out of the same coatings, you need to "boost" them. Makes ya go hmmmmmm......
 
MrOneEyedBoh said:
But my theory would be, if there is something on top of the coating then that topper would be sacrificial. Thus leading to a longer coating life span, no?
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I think it's a reasonable assumption, and I think we all do it. I don't know how silica breaks down, so if you have layers of silica - like plywood, for example - you'd think that over time, you'd lose one ply at a time until you get to the bottom ply. I don't know if layers of silica work like that or if when applying another layer of sio2 it just bonds with what's under it and it becomes essentially a single layered matrix that is just thicker. Alternatively, if you've ever seen plywood rot, you can see all layers separating and deteriorating.

Don't know.

Doubt layering hurts, though.

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Octopiston said:
I'm not snapping at anyone. I'm just giving my opinion and supporting said opinion with info and breaking it down to how it would be if a commonly held belief was applied to other products vs. giving opinion without any support. Yes, think....
If YOU read any attitude into my commemts, thats YOUR problem. I saw your little quip when you came in and first commented (that you edited.) Are my feelings hurt? Nope. I actually read it in a Yoda voice with the way it was written. I didn't read anything into it, but it could have easily been deemed as rude, so doesn't that make your soap box post a bit hypocritical though?

Here is another little piece of info. Coatings were out before the boosters with the same "up to" lifespan claims without boosters. But after boosters came on the market, it is said to get the long life out of the same coatings, you need to "boost" them. Makes ya go hmmmmmm......
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You win.
 
Octopiston said:
I'm not snapping at anyone. I'm just giving my opinion and supporting said opinion with info and breaking it down to how it would be if a commonly held belief was applied to other products vs. giving opinion without any support. Yes, think....
If YOU read any attitude into my commemts, thats YOUR problem. I saw your little quip when you came in and first commented (that you edited.) Are my feelings hurt? Nope. I actually read it in a Yoda voice with the way it was written. I didn't read anything into it, but it could have easily been deemed as rude, so doesn't that make your soap box post a bit hypocritical though?

Here is another little piece of info. Coatings were out before the boosters with the same "up to" lifespan claims without boosters. But after boosters came on the market, it is said to get the long life out of the same coatings, you need to "boost" them. Makes ya go hmmmmmm......
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I love learning, what coatings came out prior to boosters? I know optimum, can't remember the others. I thought CQ always had reload
 
Octopiston said:
Is there any proof of that? There is a reason why you put the longest lasting lsp on the bottom. If not, then you could put a wax on first and a sealant on top and the sealant would make the wax last longer than the sealant, but it doesn't work that way.

By using your theory, you could do the same with wax. Put on paste wax and continually top with a spray wax every other week. You could theoretically make a coat of wax "last" infinately that way. My question would be, does the paste wax layer last longer, or is it's breaking dow hidden by the continual topping of spray wax?
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Wax is a bad exemple because when it heats up it will evaporate and melt. So on a hot sunny day, wax will just fail especially if it's a dark color pannel.

As for sealants, people seems to think you can build them up. I am not so sure about that. My belief is that the solvents present in the sealant will remove the current sealant layer when you apply the new one. I am really doubtful, you have stack them.

Coatings seems to have the ability to build up, but you can't really apply a wax or sealant on top of them because it will not bind with the coating and they will be removed quickly. Unless you use a sealant that is SiO2 based as a toper (like Reload).

So to me, the whole, build up protection is something of a myth, and doesn't really work in the real world.
 
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