I had washed my Passat very thoroughly, clay bar on flat surfaces and was ready to wax, Next got some old Mothers Caranuba Paste wax out and started applying like I usually do using pad circular motions, not too thick either then let dry to haze and wipe off. But after barely drying to haze it was on the finish like I had left out in the Arizona sun for a week (I'm in Indiana really)!!! Tried little water, no, some detail spray no, rub harder barely, then I found some Meguiars Swirl remover and with pressure that finally took it off. But it was hard work to get that wax off. FYI car was in garage, body was cool, shaded all the good stuff. Is this a problem with maybe the wax being really old or maybe my 2015 Passat clear coat is starting to fail? I keep it in the garage about always so it doesn't sit outside very often, then only for a day or two. It was really weird as I didn't let the wax sit on the car more than 15 to 20 minutes but it dried like a hardened crust that fast. Any ideas why?
Mothers Carnauba paste wax stuck all over car, why?
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Do you have another car you can try a little bit on? If not, just go to a parking lot and put some on one of the cars parked way out where no one will mess with it. Leave a MF and then go wait and watch. Guaranteed when that guy comes out he will try to remove it. See how well he does.
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I expected to hear this... but no I wasn't heavy handed. fwiw I'm older, grew up getting paid $5 to paste wax the family Buick that was about 4 city blocks long. Dad was a fussy Air Force pilot so had to learn to "wax on, wax off" with no learn karate. It taught me the value of putting the wax on in a thin consistent layer and buff, buff, buff. So no I didn't over do it. I just got some Griots and it went on smooth and came off like a breeze, don't know.
forrest@mothers
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Any idea how old it is? Can you shoot a pic of the front on the can so I can get a general idea, or (even better) the back of the can, which would show me the lot number?
jimd@mothers
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Whit,
Thanks for getting back to us with more details by email.
I believe because of the age of the can, it may have dried a little faster on the surface, and that's why this time you used it, you had trouble removing some of the "dry to a haze" residue. It could also be simply weather-related, and if you let this dry too long, it is indeed hard to remove.
Finding that "sweet spot" of when to remove can be tricky, but a little swipe of a finger and if it removes easily, it's ready; if it still smears, it needs a few more minutes.
A fresh can is on its way to you!
Thanks for getting back to us with more details by email.
I believe because of the age of the can, it may have dried a little faster on the surface, and that's why this time you used it, you had trouble removing some of the "dry to a haze" residue. It could also be simply weather-related, and if you let this dry too long, it is indeed hard to remove.
Finding that "sweet spot" of when to remove can be tricky, but a little swipe of a finger and if it removes easily, it's ready; if it still smears, it needs a few more minutes.
A fresh can is on its way to you!
mwoolfso
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I have used the liquid version of their cleaner wax, and one time many years ago I simply applied with a buffer across the entire vehicle and then I went back and started to remove the product.... let me tell you that I won't be doing it like that again with this product. I had the same experience.
forrest@mothers
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I always suggest you follow the directions and apply to a small area at a time. Maybe even a body panel. The entire vehicle at once with a carnauba product? That wasn't the product's fault. Sorry.
forrest@mothers
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Since you mentioned in your original post you had clayed, you’re good to go to apply wax. Apply a thin coat with an appropriate applicator to an area about 1/4th the size of the hood. It should haze up, not turn white. White would mean you’ve over-applied. The cleaners in it will remove any wax you’ve applied prior. It’ll take just a minute for it to haze.
Remove with a microfiber towel, turning it over frequently.
See how that works.
mwoolfso
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You misinterpreted my post completely. I never once complained about the product in any way. With all due respect, re-read my post. Cheers.
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Okay I tried this again doing as recommended, thin coat, small area, car cool in garage in morning. Fist thing my Passat is white so checking for haze is a bit tricky. Easier on my gray metallic Titan truck. Anyway I did the smear test, waited until I was sure it was dry and buffed. It came off a bit easier but it still was some effort the remove all of it. It seems even when dry it leaves a smudgy spot or two that goes away with harder buffing. Looking forward to trying out the products coming.
jimd@mothers
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As I might not have made clear in our emails, that can should be disposed of -- it is over 5 years old -- hence, why I'm sending you a fresh can.
Granted, I don't normally replace 5-year old product, but we wanted to help a dedicated customer who was having a problem.
Your replacement can is due via UPS Wednesday.
Thanks again for using Mothers!
PaulMys
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When a product's directions say to "apply THIN", they mean it. I mean thinner than you can maybe imagine. (Not trying to insult your intelligence).
I use Collinite products, and once my applicator pad is primed, it takes about one drop of 845 (liquid) to cover a 2'x2' area. And one light swipe out of the 476s (solid) can to do the same 2'x2' area.
Also, make sure you are not trying to remove any kind of wax with cheapo Costco towels. Only use good quality MF towels, and make sure to have plenty on hand. Using too few towels can reintroduce the wax back onto the surface.
(Causing the "smudgy spots" you mentioned).