MSDS Mckee's 37 High-Intensity APC+????

[Heisenberg]

Are they ignorant? Yup. Do they have good intentions with their request? Absolutely not.

Isn't it a little strange to call someone ignorant who wants more information on something? And isn't that a little presumptuous(and insulting) to imply that most people looking for this information are just "armchair chemists or keyboard cowboys"? Both of those terms carry an extremely negative connotation.

This whole thread really rubs me the wrong way.

 

[briarpatch]

Is it my imagination, or is there an undercurrent of reluctance to supply these sheets (SDS or MSDS) as a matter of practice? I know it's not popular to question him, but Nick's response (#29) in this thread reads as evasive to me. I'm largely uneducated in this, but couldn't someone, at their own expense, simply take a sample of a product and have it analyzed? I don't think it's anyones intent to start some type of a 'Silkwood' investigation here, but merely trying to protect themselves against chemicals they should not be exposed to. Make sense?

 

[custmsprty]

On the retail side, like buying Windex, the manufactuers don't have to supply an msds sheet. If you have any employees using any chemicals on the business property or even exposed to them you have to comply to all OSHA right to know laws. I agree, it's ridiculous for them to make it so difficult to obtain the sds sheets. It's not rocket science, these types of products are all basically made from the same base chemicals.

It's not like we're talking about the Colonels Secret Recipe. rops:


It's most likely because of what you can learn about whose doing the actual manufacturing of many of the products. I'd love to see the Wolfgang Polishes sds sheets.

As a side note, 3D has all their sds sheets readily available online so what's the big deal.

 

[Nick McKees37]

Guys,

I apologize if my response seemed evasive or curt. The fine folks on the forum are the exception, and not the rule, for the type of people I was referring to. I was venting, and this thread certainly wasn't the right outlet for it.

McKee's 37 has no issue providing SDS for shops and businesses that use our products and must comply with OSHA rules and regulations - all you have to do is send me an email. I'm just happy shops are using our product!

McKee's 37 also takes pride in manufacturing surface care enhancement products that forgo high octane solvents that affect those with sensitive skin - just look at Xtreme Iron Remover; it's the least evasive product of its type. As someone with severe allergies and eczema, I know what it's like to deal with products that affect my condition. If anyone has a sensitivity to any McKee's 37 formula, I'd like to know about it!

:xyxthumbs:

 

[oneheadlite]

Isn't it a little strange to call someone ignorant who wants more information on something? And isn't that a little presumptuous(and insulting) to imply that most people looking for this information are just "armchair chemists or keyboard cowboys"? Both of those terms carry an extremely negative connotation.

This whole thread really rubs me the wrong way.

I've gotta say, I was quite surprised by Nick's post, seemed quite out of character for him. I can only guess there's a little sensitivity on the part of all the different manufacturers when people ask for the data sheets.

Yes, in a perfect world people would be asking for health concerns and to have proper safety documentation; but we're also in the age of the internet where everyone wants to judge a products efffectiveness from its ingredient/percentage list, or try to connect dots between this *insert product here* is the same as that one according to what I read on the sheet so it must just be relabeled.

I would hope if someone needed the info for their health's concern, through contact directly through the manufacturer they'd be able to find out what they need to know while also respecting the company's privacy in regards to not spreading it across the web (not that that's what OP's agenda was).


EDIT: Nick typed his response at the same time I did

 

[Heisenberg]

Guys,

I apologize if my response seemed evasive or curt. The fine folks on the forum are the exception, and not the rule, for the type of people I was referring to. I was venting, and this thread certainly wasn't the right outlet for it.

McKee's 37 has no issue providing SDS for shops and businesses that use our products and must comply with OSHA rules and regulations - all you have to do is send me an email. I'm just happy shops are using our product!

McKee's 37 also takes pride in manufacturing surface care enhancement products that forgo high octane solvents that affect those with sensitive skin - just look at Xtreme Iron Remover; it's the least evasive product of its type. As someone with severe allergies and eczema, I know what it's like to deal with products that affect my condition. If anyone has a sensitivity to any McKee's 37 formula, I'd like to know about it!

:xyxthumbs:

Cool. I thought that was pretty out of the ordinary. I appreciate you saying that.

 

[FlyinLow]

Guys,

I apologize if my response seemed evasive or curt. The fine folks on the forum are the exception, and not the rule, for the type of people I was referring to. I was venting, and this thread certainly wasn't the right outlet for it.

McKee's 37 has no issue providing SDS for shops and businesses that use our products and must comply with OSHA rules and regulations - all you have to do is send me an email. I'm just happy shops are using our product!

McKee's 37 also takes pride in manufacturing surface care enhancement products that forgo high octane solvents that affect those with sensitive skin - just look at Xtreme Iron Remover; it's the least evasive product of its type. As someone with severe allergies and eczema, I know what it's like to deal with products that affect my condition. If anyone has a sensitivity to any McKee's 37 formula, I'd like to know about it!

:xyxthumbs:

Good post, Nick. Nice recovery. And yup, eczema is a massive PITA, isn't it? Lifelong experience here...

 

[swanicyouth]

Lolz... Keyboard Cowboy...

...."Gimme all yr MSDS..."