My new GG Boss 15 review - more questions than answers

jrock645 said:
Why is everybody buying the boss instead of a rupes? They're practically the same price and it's essentially the rupes design... I know if I decide to get a long throw polisher, it'll be a rupes and not some Chinese made thing sold at a premium price.
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They took what the Rupes can do and made it overall better in a nutshell.
 
jrock645 said:
Fair enough. Makes sense and it's an actual answer. Thank you. Some folks don't like my question so they attack me. Not sure what planet that's considered logical on.
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Wow. The need for attention and sense of victimhood is a bit much.
 
Hey S4Dallas,

If you are stalling on the vertical panels, assuming they are flat, it's likely you are tilting the machine without knowing it. I know I've been guilty of this many times in the past. :)

The best way to check your technique is to take a video of yourself polishing or have someone watching you to ensure that machine is parallel with the panel. It should be like the image harris posted. :xyxthumbs:

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As for the Innerflex pad I would contact Griot's and let them know what happened. I'm pretty sure they'll send you a new one. Be sure you are removing the innerflex by the backing material and not grabbing it the foam. The same would apply with removing pads. I've also suggest Griot's make some kind of centering tool as it can effect the smoothness if not centered on the backing plate.


Hope this helps,
Rasky
 
RaskyR1 said:
Hey S4Dallas,

If you are stalling on the vertical panels, assuming they are flat, it's likely you are tilting the machine without knowing it. I know I've been guilty of this many times in the past. :)

The best way to check your technique is to take a video of yourself polishing or have someone watching you to ensure that machine is parallel with the panel. It should be like the image harris posted. :xyxthumbs:



As for the Innerflex pad I would contact Griot's and let them know what happened. I'm pretty sure they'll send you a new one. Be sure you are removing the innerflex by the backing material and not grabbing it the foam. The same would apply with removing pads. I've also suggest Griot's make some kind of centering tool as it can effect the smoothness if not centered on the backing plate.


Hope this helps,
Rasky
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Thanks Rasky. The vertical panel is curved a bit (it's the doors). You're right - the first time I used it with the DG I caught myself tilting. The second time with the wax I was much more cognizant of how I was holding it and also played with grip for a more natural stance. I had almost no problem the second time around and not sure if it was my better control or the addition of the inner flex. Both times on the flat panels such as hood and trunk I had no issues at all.

I definitely was trying to separate the inner flex from the black pad between the two velcro layers as it should normally seperate. The very edges along the velcro separated with no problem as it should, but about 1/2" in toward the center of the pad, the two pads had fused together and are completely inseparable.
 
jrock645 said:
Why is everybody buying the boss instead of a rupes? They're practically the same price and it's essentially the rupes design... I know if I decide to get a long throw polisher, it'll be a rupes and not some Chinese made thing sold at a premium price.
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I had a rupes 21 and now a g21. The griots is the better machine. It feels better built, it has a better switch, more power and the power cord is a lot easier to handle. It also feels much better in your hands. I'll take the griots over the rupes any day.
 
68bowtie said:
I had a rupes 21 and now a g21. The griots is the better machine. It feels better built, it has a better switch, more power and the power cord is a lot easier to handle. It also feels much better in your hands. I'll take the griots over the rupes any day.
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Does your G21 hum with no rotation if you give the trigger a tiny bit of juice or does it start spinning immediately regardless of how little juice you give it?
 
S4Dallas said:
Does your G21 hum with no rotation if you give the trigger a tiny bit of juice or does it start spinning immediately regardless of how little juice you give it?
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It starts right away.
 
jrock645 said:
Why is everybody buying the boss instead of a rupes? They're practically the same price and it's essentially the rupes design... I know if I decide to get a long throw polisher, it'll be a rupes and not some Chinese made thing sold at a premium price.
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I don't see this comment as negative or having "an agenda". Quite frankly, once the hype of the The Boss dies down - I think a lot of people with still buy Rupes. Everything in the above statement is factual.

It's like, I'm sure you can buy some Camaro or Mustang that is much faster and has more HP than a BMW for the price, yet BMW sales don't seem to be slipping. I can also see why a lot of people feel The Boss is a Rupes knock off.

Probably most people don't care about any of this stuff. The OPs review was quite informative and of high quality. But, based on the review - his experience is the machine did stall a bit, and the interface pad kind of sucks. Not perfect - but neither is the Rupes.

He really wasn't "correcting" anything either, using mostly non-abrasive products. I'm not so sure you couldn't get equal results with a 7424.

Basically, all in all - The Boss doesn't seem to offer much that Rupes doesn't offer, except maybe the warranty. There is always something to be said for companies who innovate stuff. I still think many will choose Rupes for this reason alone.
 
jrock645 said:
Why is everybody buying the boss instead of a rupes? They're practically the same price and it's essentially the rupes design... I know if I decide to get a long throw polisher, it'll be a rupes and not some Chinese made thing sold at a premium price.
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Griot's will warranty theirs for life. That's enough of a reason for me.
 
jrock645 said:
Why is everybody buying the boss instead of a rupes? They're practically the same price and it's essentially the rupes design... I know if I decide to get a long throw polisher, it'll be a rupes and not some Chinese made thing sold at a premium price.
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Perhaps people were satisfied with the performance of their GG6? :props:
 
swanicyouth said:
Basically, all in all - The Boss doesn't seem to offer much that Rupes doesn't offer, except maybe the warranty.
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Hi - thanks for sharing your thoughts. I think if you take the time to read through all the posts, there are some that specifically talk to this point and illustrate the numerous differences between the two brands.
 
Like I said I had the rupes now I have the boss. I believe there is a significant difference between the too. It's not just a knock off. They spent there time improving stuff on it.
 
S4Dallas said:
Thanks Rasky. The vertical panel is curved a bit (it's the doors). You're right - the first time I used it with the DG I caught myself tilting. The second time with the wax I was much more cognizant of how I was holding it and also played with grip for a more natural stance. I had almost no problem the second time around and not sure if it was my better control or the addition of the inner flex. Both times on the flat panels such as hood and trunk I had no issues at all.

I definitely was trying to separate the inner flex from the black pad between the two velcro layers as it should normally seperate. The very edges along the velcro separated with no problem as it should, but about 1/2" in toward the center of the pad, the two pads had fused together and are completely inseparable.
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Right on. I think I misread your post the first time...a little tired and out of it yesterday. :D

Contact Griot's on the Innerflex and they should replace it for you. I typically only run the Innerfelx when needed, but you still shouldn't have that issue.
 
So I left the car in the garage yesterday but have it out and about in the sun today. I wonder if The products did too good a job - my OCD has noticed more orange peel in my factory white paint then I noticed with the Blackfire products. I've also boticed for the first time its not a flat white but actually has a bit if flake in it.

Again though, the shine and depth are completly out of this world. And I definately didn't feel any of the "day after spending 7.5 hours detailing my car soreness" I felt after using the 3401. Kudo's to the Boss 15 for that. It really is a very ergonomic and comfortable tool to use.
 
swanicyouth said:
I don't see this comment as negative or having "an agenda". Quite frankly, once the hype of the The Boss dies down - I think a lot of people with still buy Rupes. Everything in the above statement is factual.

It's like, I'm sure you can buy some Camaro or Mustang that is much faster and has more HP than a BMW for the price, yet BMW sales don't seem to be slipping. I can also see why a lot of people feel The Boss is a Rupes knock off.

Probably most people don't care about any of this stuff. The OPs review was quite informative and of high quality. But, based on the review - his experience is the machine did stall a bit, and the interface pad kind of sucks. Not perfect - but neither is the Rupes.

He really wasn't "correcting" anything either, using mostly non-abrasive products. I'm not so sure you couldn't get equal results with a 7424.

Basically, all in all - The Boss doesn't seem to offer much that Rupes doesn't offer, except maybe the warranty. There is always something to be said for companies who innovate stuff. I still think many will choose Rupes for this reason alone.
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And everything after the first airplane, gun and car are all knockoffs too. It's called progress. Lol.
 
Look, it is competition and we should be happy! This forces people to step up the game and come out with new products. Guess who wins, we do!

I bought a G21 and knock off or not, it works great. I don't own a Rupes so, I can't can't comment but, people seem to like it. Whatever works for for you is what you should use.
 
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