My ONR and Fuzion Experience

I'll have to parrot what a lot of other ONR users have said. Looking at the OP's pictures , ONR should not of streaked or added any paint problems. I have been useing the 2 bucket method and microfiber towels with excellent results. I do add a little more ONR to the water then required. (2oz to 2gal) I'm thinking of trying the new Opti-mitt soon.But the m/f towels have done great so far.
 
2old2change said:
I'll have to parrot what a lot of other ONR users have said. Looking at the OP's pictures , ONR should not of streaked or added any paint problems. I have been useing the 2 bucket method and microfiber towels with excellent results. I do add a little more ONR to the water then required. (2oz to 2gal) I'm thinking of trying the new Opti-mitt soon.But the m/f towels have done great so far.
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If I remember right that is twice as much as they say to use on the instructions.
 
ROMEO said:
If I remember right that is twice as much as they say to use on the instructions.
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YEP ! Seems to make it awful slick. Works ok with 1oz to a gal. You know how us old folks think , if a little is good then a lot is .......... Never mind I was thinking of when I was younger chasing young girls. LOL
 
2old2change said:
YEP ! Seems to make it awful slick. Works ok with 1oz to a gal. You know how us old folks think , if a little is good then a lot is .......... Never mind I was thinking of when I was younger chasing young girls. LOL
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I didn't mean it as if it was something bad, I do tend to use more too...

I actually do the same when I build something, if most people would use 1/4" plywood I use 3/4" :dblthumb2:
 
WestEnd said:
I echo your thoughts completely.

Seems like it's pointless to me. Either QD it for dust or do a full wash. So that eliminates any winter driving NR processes from what I am reading here.

AeroCleanse is the only other person actually washing a car with this technique it seems...
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I prefer ONR over traditional 2 Buckets. However, I like to wash wheels traditional way and then hose off the vehicle. IME ONR adds more gloss than car wash and never marrs my paint. Wont waterspot either! I do a panel at a time and blot dry with an HD Guzzler or two. I like to use standard dilution. I have observed no benefit to over mixing. Just my $.02. I will spray the bugs with Opti Clean or UWW+ and let dwell a few minutes before doing the ONR. I havent needed my Pinnacle Bug Sponge since I started doing this.
 
I too use and like microfiber towels versus mitt with ONR. I dont use one quite that thick but one with some nap and plush like the Miracle Towels. The product, ONR, works well even with dirty cars but I still try two bucket (one rinse) as possible. I found it fast enough to use daily in washing the Vette when I needed to use it daily last month.
 
Where I am, it's well water. So using it to wash a car is counter productive (outside water isn't treated). Also, I can mix up in a bucket ready if I need to wash "in the field". I can use hot water for washing in the cold Wisconsin winters, and keep the salt at bay. I use a microfiber / chenille wash mit I got at the local auto parts store.

I have used it to take off bugs, but I found spraying with Megs SD and a bug sponge took care of the bugs. I will probably switch to TAW in the future.

If you want to learn how to use it correctly, there are plenty of youtube videos.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLIGQ5hTnj4]YouTube - Washing a Cayenne with ONR[/video]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL5A29qIjnc]YouTube - Washing With 'Optimum No Rinse'[/video]

Just a couple of ways.
 
AeroCleanse said:
Its not that dirty for a 1 bucket ONR wash.
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Old Tiger said:
I prefer ONR over traditional 2 Buckets.
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Hey Aero and OT,

I am curious, as is the other member I quoted earlier. I really would like to get this technique figured out. I think I would like it. But, it has to be more than just a QD for me to use it.

For my garage queens, I think this is a nice alternative and safer than a full wash, dry. But, for my Expedition running around in the snow, salt this winter, is this effective?

For your results do you just clean off the dust with this? Or to what level of dirty will you use this, as much as the OP? Most posts here argue it was too dirty for ONR?!

I logically see a QD and a full wash distinction. But, it seems reading this thread that QD, ONR and WW are all a fine line of each other. And a dirtier car needs a full two bucket wash.

I may just be seriously missing something and I am trying hard to find it. After all I have two ONR's from a BOGO teasing me constantly to use them. haha

EDIT: AC, I have watched those videos and the cars do not look like a winter DD dirty to me. Or even much more than a few days in good weather.

This topic is driving me mad, MAD! LOL :dunno:
 
WestEnd said:
For my garage queens, I think this is a nice alternative and safer than a full wash, dry. But, for my Expedition running around in the snow, salt this winter, is this effective?

For your results do you just clean off the dust with this? Or to what level of dirty will you use this, as much as the OP? Most posts here argue it was too dirty for ONR?!

EDIT: AC, I have watched those videos and the cars do not look like a winter DD dirty to me. Or even much more than a few days in good weather.
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Here's a link to a thread I contributed to a couple of years ago after my first use of ONR.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/auto-detailing-101/16638-too-dirty-onr.html#post214592

Yeah, it'll work fine on a winter-dirty car. But you lose the needed blasting power from a hose in the wheel wells. I concluded it has it's uses but since I have a heated garage with hot n cold water & drains it doesn't have the value for me as it would for others.

Like the OP, I find ONR kinda smeary on glass. I keep a fresh WW handy to polish the smears off after drying.

My main use of ONR is on motorcycles that aren't cruddy enough to drag out a hose. I keep a spray bottle handy with a stronger-than-QD strength mixed up and use ONR as a spray n wipe type product. I also use it for clay lube and various things around the house. An ONR moistened MF works well for cleaning screens... beats taking 'em out and hosing 'em off and waiting for them to dry. Also handy for wiping off junk in the garage like tool boxes , cabinets etc. :xyxthumbs:

TL
 
WestEnd said:
Hey Aero and OT,

I am curious, as is the other member I quoted earlier. I really would like to get this technique figured out. I think I would like it. But, it has to be more than just a QD for me to use it.

For my garage queens, I think this is a nice alternative and safer than a full wash, dry. But, for my Expedition running around in the snow, salt this winter, is this effective?

For your results do you just clean off the dust with this? Or to what level of dirty will you use this, as much as the OP? Most posts here argue it was too dirty for ONR?!

I logically see a QD and a full wash distinction. But, it seems reading this thread that QD, ONR and WW are all a fine line of each other. And a dirtier car needs a full two bucket wash.

I may just be seriously missing something and I am trying hard to find it. After all I have two ONR's from a BOGO teasing me constantly to use them. haha

EDIT: AC, I have watched those videos and the cars do not look like a winter DD dirty to me. Or even much more than a few days in good weather.

This topic is driving me mad, MAD! LOL :dunno:
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I dont have badd winters here. When we get snow, I take the Ford to a touchless, get the wash and return to the garage for an ONR wash. BTW I am old so I heat the garage and fill my bucket in the kitchen with warm water!
 
TLMitchell said:
Here's a link to a thread I contributed to a couple of years ago after my first use of ONR.
TL
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PERFECT!! Exactly what I was looking for, thanks. Supports this OP and clears up my confusion. I too have the heated garage, water, etc but get lazy with hoses and wanted to try the ONR. The around the house ideas are good too.

Great write-up, your feeling the grit line was a perfect description!! :dblthumb2:

Old Tiger said:
I dont have badd winters here. When we get snow, I take the Ford to a touchless, get the wash and return to the garage for an ONR wash. BTW I am old so I heat the garage and fill my bucket in the kitchen with warm water!
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Hey, warm water is good for all ages. And the older I get the more I think so. LOL
 
WestEnd said:
I too have the heated garage, water, etc but get lazy with hoses and wanted to try the ONR.
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After some practice an ONR wash seems a bit quicker, especially since you have a bit less to clean up and put away. When you consider the PITA factor cleaning wheels and wells though ONR vs the hose is pretty much a wash. :::groan::: :D

After some experimentation and never having any use whatsoever for a sponge when washing cars, I discovered to my surprise the vaunted Lowe's ProLine grout sponge is the perfect tool for use with ONR. YMMV.

TL
 
There is a forum member named Scottwax (not sure if he posts here on AG or not, but he does post on several other forums - Autopia and Meguiar's Online come to mind), and he uses ONR quite a bit I believe. Here is one of his videos:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLIGQ5hTnj4]YouTube - Washing a Cayenne with ONR[/video]

Here was a comment somebody made with regards to that video:

This is a good wash product that works wonderfully when done properly. In this video demo, I don't really like how he wipes down and then back up again. I would just make a light single downward pass and then wash the sponge and go over it again the way he did. He also didn't wash the whole door before drying it off and you can see how his microfiber towel picked up some of the dirt from the unwashed portion of the door...you would definitely run the risk of swirl marks doing that.

His reply:

I've been using rinseless washes (QEW first, then ONR) since 1993 and haven't had any issues with swirls or marring using the above method. I can pretty much guarantee I've washed more cars using rinseless washes than anyone else in the world. Around 13,500 cars at this point.
 
TLMitchell said:
After some practice an ONR wash seems a bit quicker, especially since you have a bit less to clean up and put away. When you consider the PITA factor cleaning wheels and wells though ONR vs the hose is pretty much a wash. :::groan::: :D

After some experimentation and never having any use whatsoever for a sponge when washing cars, I discovered to my surprise the vaunted Lowe's ProLine grout sponge is the perfect tool for use with ONR. YMMV.

TL
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You can use ONR for that. Again, these are more of Scottwax's videos:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSgdMAGjU_s]YouTube - Optimum No Rinse and wheels part 1[/video]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmJ64kVFlJw]YouTube - Optimum No Rinse and wheels part 2[/video]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fUtu6JB5aQ]YouTube - Fenderwell cleaning with Optimum No Rinse Wash[/video]
 
CieraSL said:
You can use ONR for that. Again, these are more of Scottwax's videos:
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The problem is I do not consider the wheels or wheel wells that dirty in scottwax's video and wiping them down with any liquid would make an improvement.
 
CieraSL said:
You can use ONR for that. Again, these are more of Scottwax's videos:

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSgdMAGjU_s] - Optimum No Rinse and wheels part 1[/URL]

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmJ64kVFlJw] - Optimum No Rinse and wheels part 2[/URL]

[URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fUtu6JB5aQ] - Fenderwell cleaning with Optimum No Rinse Wash[/URL]
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Great stuff Shane! You should be bestowed the title AG Historian or Librarian Emeritus. You always get your link!
 
Bunky said:
The problem is I do not consider the wheels or wheel wells that dirty in scottwax's video and wiping them down with any liquid would make an improvement.
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Well, assuming you're doing this when it's cold and you're limited to rinseless washes, then you should probably be doing it on a regular basis so the dirt doesn't build up, thus you shouldn't have really dirty wheels or wheel wells.
 
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