My Waterless/Rinseless wash method

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

I have gotten a few PM’s asking how this method is performed and I wanted to put this together into a thread to show case what is going on during this wash. It is a combination of the two washes put together to compliment each other in one wash.

There are variations of this technique will some are the same. My goal was to combine it all together and show in one thread. This is nothing new and I’m sure others may be doing this same thing.

How much water and towels you use depends on how big the vehicle is. It also depends on if you are using a grit guard in your bucket as this will take water space. With the way I am doing it you do not need a grit guard installed in the bucket as you will never have dirty water. I always use one as I do not like the idea of my towels laying on the bottom of the bucket.


You will need one five gallon bucket minimum
One grit guard on the bottom (optional)
Car Wash Bucket - How to wash a car.
3 gallons properly mixed rinseless wash
Meguiars Rinse Free Express Wash, rinseless car wash, no rinse
6 towels to get started.
Chinchilla Microfiber Buffing Cloths 6 Pack
Drying mf towels
Supreme 530 Microfiber Towel 6 Pack
Spray bottle mixed with waterless wash
Wolfgang Chemical Resistant Pressure Sprayer, pressurized spray bottle, pump sprayer

Meguiars Rinse Free Express Wash & Wax D-11501, rinseless car wash, rinseless wash and wax

Spray wax (optional)
Meguiars Synthetic X-press Spray Wax, X-press car wax, Meguiars X-press spray liquid wax, D156

I have my mixture of Meguiar’s Rinsefree Express wash at 1:1 while my spray mixture of Meguiar’s Rinsefree Express Wash and Wax is set at 4:1. You can adjust your ratios to suit your needs. Also, this is just what I am using at the moment. Feel free to use your favorite combos.

Depending on how dirty the vehicle is you may want to go to a coin op and use the pressure wand to knock off the heavy dirt. After thoroughly knocking the dirt off you are ready to get started at the convenience of your home.

Now to accomplish this method, first spray the panel with your waterless wash mixture with a heavy coat of product. You want plenty of lubrication and enough product on the surface to start loosening the dirt buildup. Let this sit for 1 or 2 minutes before starting. It helps to presoak a few panels in front so you wont have to wait for them to saturate.

Next, pull out a presoaked mf towel from your wash solution and begin to make your swipes across the paint. As you continue to make subsequent swipes, lift the leading edge of your mf towel to use a new portion of the towel. When done right, you will have multiple dirt lines across the face of the towel. When the isolated panel that was cleaned, pull out a separate dry mf towel to dry the panel.

With a mf towel folded into two halves, it will give you 8 sides to wipe with. You can change out sides more often depending on how dirty the paint is.

With your dry mf towel, dry the panel and buff to shine. When the entire vehicle is completed with this method you can either stop or start applying your spray wax if you decide for further gloss and protection.

This is the way I perform my washes without a hose. IMO, this is the ideal way to wash your vehicle if you live in an apartment complex, do not have running water, or washing with free flowing water is forbidden.

Don’t forget proper towel inspection after washing your towels in the washing machine.
http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ke-phillips/88875-smack-towel-method-stm.html

On the right side is distilled water. This will ensure the perfect wash solution

6 Chinchilla towels

Putting them down to soak. 6 is enough to start with

6 towels standing on end in 3 gallons of water and resting on the grit guard

Dirty towels that were "Discarded"

The amount of water used for 6 towels

The afters

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Videos to Document the process

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[ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzasKIeWrZw[/video]

 

[Tato]

Great reference, Mike!, this thread tells how it should be done properly.

Well explained and well illustrated,

Thanks for taking your time,

Kind Regards.


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[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Great reference, Mike!, this thread tells how it should be done properly.

Well explained and well illustrated,

Thanks for taking your time,

Kind Regards.


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Thanks Rafael!

I edited my second response. Thanks for the heads up!

 

[~TumbleWeed~]

I have my mixture of Meguiar’s Rinsefree Express wash at 1:1

1:1 for D114??? Wow….

I thought 128:1 was what was usually mixed for dirty vehicles?

 

[FUNX650]

Hi Mike...

Thanks for posting your WW/RW-wash method:
A "hybrid" wash, if I may.

•I have an observation on your Meguiar's D114 dilution ratio.
-I notice you used a 1:1 ratio.
That's kinda strong, IMO.

Perhaps your use of D115 reduces, what I consider:
The potency of D114. :dunno:

Anyway:
These are my D114 dilution ratios:

The D114 dilution ratios I so far have used are:
• A 1:256 ratio for lightly soiled panels...
down to:
• A 1:192 ratio for medially soiled panels...
down to:
• A 1:128 ratio for the most heavily soiled panels...
and all the way down to:
• A 1:15 ratio for a "panel wipe"

Again:
Thanks for taking the time and effort for this thread! rops:

Bob

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

1:1 for D114??? Wow….

I thought 128:1 was what was usually mixed for dirty vehicles?

Man I goofed that up. Thanks for pointing that out.

You are right. 128:1 One ounce per gallon.

 

[~TumbleWeed~]

Awesome Mike….thanks for clearing that up.

I was freaking out for a second there and thinking this method was waaaaay to expensive for me

Have a great rest of the weekend!

 

[FUNX650]

Man I goofed that up. Thanks for pointing that out.

You are right. 128:1 One ounce per gallon.

Whew!! rops:


Bob

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Awesome Mike….thanks for clearing that up.

I was freaking out for a second there and thinking this method was waaaaay to expensive for me

Have a great rest of the weekend!

Whew!! rops:


Bob

I don't know what I was thinking.

Thanks for pointing that out Gentlemen and getting me back on track. rops:

Enjoy the weekend fellas.

 

[swanicyouth]

Thanks for the info.

I have a few questions though. I always wonder how people wash wheels not using water. I'm guessing you just wipe down the faces?

I'm also wondering if you experienced any marring doing rinseless washes on your JB BMW?

 

[silverfox]

I think if people knew that chemically a waterless/rinseless product is safer than any "soap" on the market...as long as the paint is pre-soaked first...they'd sleep better. All that foam and suds doesn't equate to safer washing. BTW....D114/115 are killer good products. Best in class in my opinion.

 

[Chris@AutoCleanse]

Great work buddy. I like rinseless washes, but still do wheels traditional, I feel I can't get a good cleaning, call me crazy. Great videos.

 

[Mask]

Thanks for the detail write up and videos Mike, this method is awesome,clearly explained everything and easily for a guy like me to understand.
Like you mention above, pressure wash before D114/115 combo to perform a safe wash.

Kind regards

 

[281]

Awesome Mike, thanks for sharing!

 

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

Thanks for the info.

I have a few questions though. I always wonder how people wash wheels not using water. I'm guessing you just wipe down the faces?

I'm also wondering if you experienced any marring doing rinseless washes on your JB BMW?

Thanks Steve.

Here, I just wiped them down with the WW/RW combination. I first knocked off the heavy accumulation with the spray wand. My wheels are also coated which makes cleaning them easier.

Marring the paint? No. Swirling the paint? Likely. At this point I'm not overly worried as I need to get it ready for spring soon with a mild polish. My car has become my daily driver now unlike when I was in Las Vegas. With a Daily Driver, it will drive you nuts trying to keep your paint swirl free.

With the way I am doing this method and heavily pre soaking the panel, I would go out on a limb and say its as safe as a traditional two bucket wash.

I think if people knew that chemically a waterless/rinseless product is safer than any "soap" on the market...as long as the paint is pre-soaked first...they'd sleep better. All that foam and suds doesn't equate to safer washing. BTW....D114/115 are killer good products. Best in class in my opinion.

Thank you sir. As you mentioned this is a very safe and effective way of washing provided the proper steps are followed. Also, just because a bucket is over flowing with suds does not mean you can get carried away and wash like a wild man.

The Meguiar's pair of washes are top notch for sure. Ive tried a few different options and feel these are among the best.

Great work buddy. I like rinseless washes, but still do wheels traditional, I feel I can't get a good cleaning, call me crazy. Great videos.

Thank you Chris.

Sometimes you may need to do the wheels the traditional way depending on how bad they are.

Thanks for the detail write up and videos Mike, this method is awesome,clearly explained everything and easily for a guy like me to understand.
Like you mention above, pressure wash before D114/115 combo to perform a safe wash.

Kind regards

Sure thing. Glad you enjoyed it.

Awesome Mike, thanks for sharing!

Thanks James!

 

[Pats300zx]

It seems in the video that you were taking so long to just do one panel. Was that just for the purpose of making the video? If not, how long does this method take you?

 

[Setec Astronomy]

You mentioned saving the rocker panels for last because they are the dirtiest...does that matter when you are using the "single use" wash media method?

IMO you shouldn't be drying the panel until the panel is clean, so the drying towel shouldn't be getting dirty, so is that conventional wash "top down" conventional wisdom really applicable to this method?

I know it's not a perfect world and it's safer to do it as you suggest, I just thought this was another key advantage of the "single use" media method, is not going around and around the car working your way down, the way you would with a RW and a (rinse) bucket. For instance, if I'm rinseless washing with a single piece of media and a rinse bucket, I'm going to probably split that into "above the beltline" and "below the beltline" and go around the whole car twice (after doing the windows, roof, hood, and trunk).

You already did the top and bottom of the door in one shot, so if it was me I'd likely just continue and do the rocker panel, I'd just make sure to wrap around the bottom of it with the wash towel to make sure I didn't pick up any dirt on my drying towel from that area.

Of course then we get into the whole issue of if you've used that wash towel under the rocker panel, do you ever want to use that on the hood of your black car again, even after washing the towel. So I guess there's a good question, do you use dedicated media (washing and drying) when you go back and do the rocker panels?

I'm not trying to give you a hard time, and hey, the purpose of your thread was to show "your method" after all, I'm just playing a little Devil's advocate, but I have a headache now from thinking about this too much.

 

[AZ Mike]

Thank you for taking the time for such an in depth write up and video. Is the paint on the BMW coated?

 

[Kamakaz1961]

Mike as always thank you for the information!!

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