Need help deciding on wet sanding these scratche!

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Well it happened a few weeks ago I left the car out of the garage.

It happened to be real windy day in VA that weekend and a single shingle blew off of my roof and scraped down the driver side of my VW CC. It even scratched the glass, the trim and the paint.

I have a plan as I have been researching and learning stuff from you guys on here for several years now. So here it is. I am going to fill them in with factory touch up paint and then wet sand them 1500-2000 grit followed by 3000.

After that I'm going to polish out with m205 and m105.

Does anyone have any suggestions or advice? Do you think this will work? I am very cautious and meticulous so don't let my description in this thread worry you.

Well I was going to add a photo but for some reason it's not working.

What I have to work with is a pc 7424xp and a variety of pads.


I Welcome all and any feedback and questions.
 
My Buddies car had a major key scratch from a jerk when his car was parked. I would Youtube and see how it is done. Once you do have an idea on how to remove the scratch, it is quite easy if you put care in the job.

I would start off with 2000 (or 2500 if you have it). 1500 IMO might be too rough. If your fingernails can catch the scratch, then you will not be able to remove the entire scratch. You will make it look better, but close inspection you might be able to see the scratch.

The touch up paint will be the hardest (IMO). I can't tell what you need as I have no pics.

Try a small test spot with your technique. Try at a small area that is not seen much.

Try your technique with 2000 then 3000 or use an Orange Pad with the M105 and follow up a White Pad with M205. If you have 2500 grit, you can go straight to M105 and M205. IMO you do not need 3000.

You might not even need to go with the 3000 and go straight to correction with the PC7424 XP.

Youtube how to repair scratches. The Junkman2000 has a good video that shows you how.

I hope that helps!!

Pics would have been better but I am just guessing this is what you need.
 
If the car had a clear coat on it, get the factory color touch up and the factory clear and mix them together in equal parts. Then you can fill the scratch, level it, and buff it out. It'll match closer that way.

On a clear coat system, the base color will dry rough and matte finished. That's so the clear coat has something to bond to. It's the clear that provides the glossy finish.

Some factory touch up tubes do contain a glossy finish paint, but you can't assume that.
 
aim4squirrels said:
If the car had a clear coat on it, get the factory color touch up and the factory clear and mix them together in equal parts. Then you can fill the scratch, level it, and buff it out. It'll match closer that way.

On a clear coat system, the base color will dry rough and matte finished. That's so the clear coat has something to bond to. It's the clear that provides the glossy finish.

Some factory touch up tubes do contain a glossy finish paint, but you can't assume that.
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So I went to the dealer and got the touch up paint which does contain a tube of paint and clear coat. So how should I put it on!

It's the car in my avatar.
 
Do not try to level touch-up paint with 2000, it is not effective and can cause you to apply too much pressure and remove too much CC from the areas adjacent to the touch-up

Follow the standard touch-up sequence, filling the scratch gradually until it is slightly over filled

Tape off close to it and hit it with 1000 or 1500 to knock down the excess

The thickness of the tape will prevent you from getting it completely level

Remove the tape, hit it with 1500 to level and then 2000, so it will be easier to compound out the sanding marks

As others have mentioned, this is risky stuff

I will add that you will like never be completely satisfied with your repair attempt


If the damage is contained to one panel, drivers side door... A better option may be a Smart Repair. This can be done at your location. The do spot color and clear the entire panel. Should be around $200
 
If you have comprehensive coverage under your auto policy it should be covered subject to your deductible. Comp deductibles are quite often less than collision deductibles.
 
Paul Mitchell said:
If you have comprehensive coverage under your auto policy it should be covered subject to your deductible. Comp deductibles are quite often less than collision deductibles.
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How low would a comprehensive coverage deductible go?

Don't most people keep it at $500 or more like $1,000?

Having the entire door re-painted should be less than $500


Are you sure the shingle wasn't from your neighbors house?
 
The comprehensive deductible could be as low as $50.00. Your agent should give you the different rates for different deductibles and it's up to you to decide what you want to pay for insurance. The higher the deductible the less premium you pay. Collision deductible are normally higher than comprehensive deductibles. I have three vehicles and all have $50.00 comprehensive and $500.00 collision deductibles. I pay an average of $37.00 for comp. coverage and $91.00 for collision for a six month policy period.

If high winds caused the shingle to blow off the house it wouldn't matter if it was your shingle or your neighbors. The only way your neighbor would be responsible would be if he was negligent in the maintenance of his roof, was aware of the issue, and failed to rectify it.
 
What type of vehicle are you able to insure for $52 a month?

Does the same standard apply if the wind had blown his chimney over onto the Neighbors car?

It always seems like insurance is sticking it to ya
 
My advice based on what I have learned from similar experiences is to not rush the process. I have found that you get a certain amount of "shrinkage" as the paint dries. Just make sure you give the repair plenty of time, a full day if possible, between painting and sanding.
 
I'd post a pic of your scratch before jumping in too fast with your plan. Not saying you don't know what your talking about, but if it was me, I would want peeps to see the scratch along with me.


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Tools17 said:
So I went to the dealer and got the touch up paint which does contain a tube of paint and clear coat. So how should I put it on!

It's the car in my avatar.
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In my opinion, you have to mix them together 50/50. Reason being is once you put the base coat on it'll fill the scratch, and you won't be able to add clear because if you put it on top, you'll sand it all off when you level it. With the clear mixed in, it'll give you the glossy look and stay glossy as you level it.

This procedure is not for the faint of heart as previously mentioned. If you're not prepared to front the cost of a complete panel repaint, don't precede.
 
allenk4 said:
What type of vehicle are you able to insure for $52 a month?

Does the same standard apply if the wind had blown his chimney over onto the Neighbors car?

It always seems like insurance is sticking it to ya
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#1. I can't insure my vehicles for $52.00 per month. Those are the premiums charged for comprehensive and collision coverage only. The majority of your insurance premiums are for liability including bodily injury and property damage. Check your own policy and you'll find this to be true.

#2. Yes the same standard applies. If there's no negligence on the part of the chimney owner he's not responsible for damage to his neighbor's vehicle. Now if the chimney owner knew he had a faulty chimney that could fall over in a windstorm and he failed to repair his chimney in a "reasonable time" he would be considered "negligent" and his homeowners liability coverage would pay for damage to the vehicle.

#3. You have to remember it's a contract and when you pay the premium you agree to abide by the contract whether it's to your advantage or not. I will agree with you that some companies are better than others and you may not know how good your company is until you have a claim.
 
I actually do like USAA Car Insurance

- Reasonable rates

- Roadside assistance incl.

- Rebate check every year
 
aim4squirrels said:
In my opinion, you have to mix them together 50/50. Reason being is once you put the base coat on it'll fill the scratch, and you won't be able to add clear because if you put it on top, you'll sand it all off when you level it. With the clear mixed in, it'll give you the glossy look and stay glossy as you level it.

This procedure is not for the faint of heart as previously mentioned. If you're not prepared to front the cost of a complete panel repaint, don't precede.
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Thanks for the advice. The touch up paint comes in pens and not sure if I will be able to mix them. I am taking y'all's advice also on doing a spot in an inconspicuous place. (Bottom rear quarter panel behind tire).

I did try using the m105 with an orange pad and it made it look much better. A few spots still may need some paint. So I am going to wait for my test spot to dry and give it a shot with wet sanding. I may not get to it til next weekend though.
 
Azure said:
I'd post a pic of your scratch before jumping in too fast with your plan. Not saying you don't know what your talking about, but if it was me, I would want peeps to see the scratch along with me.


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I would love to post a pic but for some reason it just keeps loading. I have posted them before so not sure what's going on now.
 
Tools17 said:
I would love to post a pic but for some reason it just keeps loading. I have posted them before so not sure what's going on now.
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If you are using Tapatalk, that could be the prob. They pushed an update a few weeks back that basically replaced all the Tapatalk apps. I was using Tapatalk HD and switched to just plain Tapatalk and it fixed the photo upload issues I was having. Hope that helps you out.


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since it was one of your shingles you may be able to file it under homeowners along with the roof repair...I would check with your insurance company before doing anything.
 
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