Need help finding the right polisher....

If you cN afford it go with the FLEX
if not go with the GG ...
I have owned 3 g110v2 (2 returned due to the cord) and the latest turned into a 3" wet sanding machine because it's the least aggressive machine... The GG has balls that may or may not be needed but for a lifetime warranty why wouldn't you.... These are machines, they will break, nothing is forever...
So go with the 5.4L not the the 4.6 ;-)
 
fredcandetail said:
If you cN afford it go with the FLEX
if not go with the GG ...
I have owned 3 g110v2 (2 returned due to the cord) and the latest turned into a 3" wet sanding machine because it's the least aggressive machine... The GG has balls that may or may not be needed but for a lifetime warranty why wouldn't you.... These are machines, they will break, nothing is forever...
So go with the 5.4L not the the 4.6 ;-)
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I'd agree that the best option would be to get two machines, though even then I would think it'd be best not to get two of the same type (just so you don't have two expensive purchases with the exact same design, and therefore, presumably, the exact same design defects...). Still, there are far too many reports of issues with the GG6, with some people having to get a third or even fourth machine, to just write it off as the standard percentage of manufacturing defects that are present with every mechanical device that's mass produced. Conversely, all the issues I've read about regarding the G110v2 have been about the faulty power cord, which they have (presumably) fixed.

Heh, I guess I have a somewhat different perspective on reliability than most, because I'm from a different country that's almost literally halfway around the world. In my case, a lifetime warranty is not the great equalizer that it is for others - the cost of returning a machine back to the manufacturer for repair, than having it shipped back, would easily be a good fraction of the cost of a new machine. Also, as a hobbyist detailer, I simply cannot justify the cost of getting two polishers - there's no way I'd be able to recoup the expense; so my outlook is skewed towards getting the most reliable option, even at the expense of some power.
 
Derek,

The Griots and PC both have cruise control inthe sense that the switch locks in the on position and you dont have to keep a finger on it. The speed is not variable on them by switch, only by the dial.

The Flex has a variable speed trigger which is nice. It's cruise control is a lock for the trigger. OVerall the Flex is a great machine. It is reliable (although some have failed) and powerful. The forced rotation will correct a little more quickly than the other DAs. Downsides to Flex are cost and user control. The Flex's forced rotation makes it want to work you instead of you working it. Dont get me wrong, I love mine. I just dont think I would recommend it as a first machine. Also, some have not had good success with the Megs DA MF system on the Flex. I have not tried it on mine. IT works so well on my GG, I dont want to hassle with the Flex.

If cost is not an issue, you could start with a GG 6 or PC and learn to use them. Then you can decide on a second machine later. MAybe even the Flex.
 
umi000 said:
While the GG6 has the most power among the three, I've read numerous reports of reliability issues.
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In 3 years I've read 3 ppl complain or have problems with the Griots

Megs DA has been a flop IMO. Their polish is the best though!

Derek Short said:
Here is a link on AG to the different kits of this polisher.
which one of these kits would u guys recommend would be the best for me to start out with?
Or am i best off with just getting the DA polisher by itself and then buy the waxes, cleaners, etc separately?
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I gave you the kit you need in your introduction thread. You don't want to buy a ready made kit. That is unless it's the one I made for you ;)
 
The good news for you is that any of the DAs you're considering will give you the "OMG WOW" result you want and each of them has a large base of satisfied users. I'm new to machine polishing and when I was looking to buy the Megs was unavailable or it probably would have been my first choice for no particular reason. I got a PCXP and have been happy overall with it using 5.5" pads as recommended. If price isn't a problem and you intend to be working on several cars the Flex 3401 might be the best choice for you as the forced rotation and additional power will, by all reports, produce the desired correction results in less time than the others mentioned.
Once you decide on a particular DA the packages may or may not be the way to depending on what pads you want. After deciding which size and type of pads you want (CCS, flat, HydroTech, etc.) a selection of 2 each of cutting, polishing and finishing will have you off to a good start.

Good luck with your selection.
 
My votes for the PC 7424XP. But you can't go wrong with any DA's that are out right now

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful feedback.

as of right now these are my thoughts....

Looks like i should probably buy 2 machines or maybe 1 to start out with.
For my 2nd machine i think im pretty sold on the flex 3401. I think since im new to the machine polishing world i need to start off with one of the 3 i mentioned from the get go.

I am seriously considering the GG6 and the G110v2.
I do like the fact that the GG6 has a lifetime warranty and from what a few of you have been saying is the power cord seemed to be the only real issue with it. But it looks like that have gotten that problem fixed.

If i do go with the GG6 would u guys suggest i upgraded and get the better power cord that is longer?

Also what about the G110v2 does that have a lifetime warranty?


Once i figure out the polisher i am going to get i will be making a new thread about pads and cleaners which should i go with and why? so keep an eye out for that.

Again thanks for all the feedback and keep it coming!
 
G100v2 has 1 yr warranty. The way I look at it if these professionals here use it few hrs a day and still have a full yr warranty it should last me 20 yrs. to do my own cars. LOL
Then on the other hand it's only under $150.00 investment. Heck I threw away a lot more on other toys and never were concerned with 30 or 90 day warranty. You will spend up to $2000.00 on TV and be lucky if you get 1 yr warranty.:props:
 
Well after ive been doing some more reading and re-search i think ive decided with the GG6.

I was reading somewhere that they had a lot of vibration and that kinda turned me off to them. then i was reading that was the older style GG6 and the newer ones are much better and smoother. I also like the fact that they have a lifetime warranty. Seems like over all they tend to have it all.


I think i am going to start out with the GG6 and when the time is right i will move up to the flex 3401.



Now i am at that point where i need to decided which pads, waxes, cleaners, etc. and stuff i will be needing. ill be making a new thread for that here in just a min.

Thanks again for everyone's feedback! You guys rock! :props:
 
Derek Short said:
Oh nice!

here it is i found it...

this lil guy is the one i was thinking of...
Griot's Garage Professional Random Orbital 3 Inch Polisher, Random Orbit Buffer, Dual Action Polisher, 3" buffer

i wouldn't mind having 2 one for the main big surface areas of the car and then this lil guy for the harder smaller spots.


And also on this G110v2 polisher its only a 6" polisher and you can't chance or swap out the pad head piece? like run a 4" or a 6"?
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You can even swap out with a 3" and use the NF cutting. pads, The 3" GG is underpowered. I recommend MF for cutting and foam for finishing. Instead of the 3" get the Megs and the 6"GG. You will be glad you did later,
 
Old Tiger said:
You can even swap out with a 3" and use the NF cutting. pads, The 3" GG is underpowered. I recommend MF for cutting and foam for finishing. Instead of the 3" get the Megs and the 6"GG. You will be glad you did later,
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I was actually looking at and considering the 3" GG3. but if ur saying its under powered then im probably best off getting a 3" surface plate as an attachment for the GG6 then correct?

I will need the smaller type pads for getting in those smaller tighter areas. will the 4" pad be to big? do u guys think i should even consider the 3" pad? or just stick with the 6" pad and get a 4" pad also for my GG6?
 
Derek Short said:
I was actually looking at and considering the 3" GG3. but if ur saying its under powered then im probably best off getting a 3" surface plate as an attachment for the GG6 then correct?

I will need the smaller type pads for getting in those smaller tighter areas. will the 4" pad be to big? do u guys think i should even consider the 3" pad? or just stick with the 6" pad and get a 4" pad also for my GG6?
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I have 3, 4 & 6" BP's for my Griots. 95% of the time I run the 6". 3 or 4" pads work okay too, but for me personally the 6" pads perform better. You just have to use the edge of the pad and be carefull

The 3" Griots Blows....



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Flash Gordon said:
I have 3, 4 & 6" BP's for my Griots. 95% of the time I run the 6". 3 or 4" pads work okay too, but for me personally the 6" pads perform better. You just have to use the edge of the pad and be carefull

The 3" Griots Blows....



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Flash Gordon - How old is your griots 3" polisher. I have a new one and it seems to work great and takes a quite a bit of pressure before stopping it.

For me the GG 3" is a convenient tool to have.
 
thanks guys for that input.

how reliable is the GG3? i don't really want to have to be hassling with changing out backing plates on my GG6 all the times to run the 3 and 4" ones.

I'd like to just buy the GG3 and have that also for the smaller tighter areas but its its under powered and doesn't work very well i don't ant to bother with it. but like u were saying the newer ones may be better?
 
toycar18 said:
Flash Gordon - How old is your griots 3" polisher. I have a new one and it seems to work great and takes a quite a bit of pressure before stopping it.

For me the GG 3" is a convenient tool to have.
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I don't have one. My painter does and I used his once. I would imagine his is at least a year or two old. Maybe even older

Did they upgrade the motor? The one I used was super weak
 
Flash Gordon said:
I don't have one. My painter does and I used his once. I would imagine his is at least a year or two old. Maybe even older

Did they upgrade the motor? The one I used was super weak
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The Griots 6" I bought 3 or 4 years ago was super weak as well. The new Griots 6" is awesome and the 3" is good little tool to have.

Both the 6" and 3" approx. 3 or 4 years ago were terrible

It takes a lot of pressure to stop the new 3"
 
I got my 3" griots a few months ago at the griots open house. It was after using one out that a friend had that I decided to pull the trigger. he also had a 3" Metabo which looked and and ran the same as the Griots. As for how much power it has , if I want to use a m/f pad to remove sanding marks or deeper defects I have quicker results with a 3" pad on the GC 6" machine. The smaller machine as I posted earlier is great around mirrors , tight spots etc. It just doesn't have the torque of the larger machine IMO.
 
2old2change said:
The smaller machine as I posted earlier is great around mirrors , tight spots etc. It just doesn't have the torque of the larger machine IMO.
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yea thanks kinda what im looking for. i need something that would be good for those tight spots and stuff. I wouldn't expect it to be as powerful and the full size GG6 seeing as its a smaller motor and all.
But if it does the job and works good thats all im looking for.
 
Flash Gordon said:
In 3 years I've read 3 ppl complain or have problems with the Griots

Megs DA has been a flop IMO. Their polish is the best though!
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I agree 100% Flash. The Meg's DA has been by far the least reliable and the Porter Cable is no where as bullet proof as some imagine. In the last 2 months, I have counted seven different people with issues with their Porter Cable on AG. That is more than any of the other DA buffers in the same time period. Even though some people try to discount it, a lifetime warranty is priceless.
 
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