Need help with a 05 Toyota Tacoma

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Twissted

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Hey guys I have a friends 2005 Blue Toyota Tacoma that I was detailing for him and just cant seem to get the results I want. I am using a DA with Yellow pad (usually just use an orange pad but it wasnt working so I went to the yellow) and M105 but just cant seem to get the paint to level. It really has me confused as I have used this exact process on several cars and had awesome results.

Here are some pics after several passes with the M105 and DA polisher /Yellow pad. Some suggestions PLEASE. I have some SIP coming but it wont be here until Wednesday.

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I was recently informed that the yellow pad will finish with marring and you need to follow up with either an orange or white. I would start with white and M205, if this doesn't work try orange with M205. Least aggressive first!
 
Are you following the M105 with a finishing polish like M205 or are you just using M105 by itself? M105 is a pretty aggressive compound, and as such it can cause micro-marring. Hence the reason for the M105/M205 combo. Looks like you've got some micro-marring going on. Try a finishing polish on a polishing pad and see if that clears it up. Remember to do a test spot!:buffing:
 
I started using the orange pad but all the scratches in the pictures are from before I started to polish so I went to the yellow pad and it still doesn't seem to take out the scratches. Didn't know if the Toyota clear was super hard or whats going on, I have never had this problem before! The scratches you see are what I was trying to get out from the beginning :buffing:
 
Twissted said:
I started using the orange pad but all the scratches in the pictures are from before I started to polish so I went to the yellow pad and it still doesn't seem to take out the scratches. Didn't know if the Toyota clear was super hard or whats going on, I have never had this problem before! The scratches you see are what I was trying to get out from the beginning :buffing:
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Oh. Are these deep enough that they catch your finger nail? You may need Menzerna PO 83 or possibly S34A if you are having a tough time with M105. Stay tuned because I know some of the seasoned pro's will chime in.
 
You can not feel them with a finger nail, thats what has me so confused. Someone recommended PFW pad on a rotary but I dont have one of those pads or experience with them. I may have to look into them though.
 
Those look like RIDS. A rotary will take care of those... and maybe a little wetsanding if needed...
 
I can also see a lot of scratches on the fender flares even with minimal light. Looks like it's all over the car. Has this been repainted or still OEM? If it has been repainted, chances are these scratches were left unleveled on the base and sprayed over with the clear. Like you mentioned it doesn't catch your fingernail which means:

1. it's not deep enough of a scratch that a compound should have easily leveled it such as the m105 since it doesn't work, it has to be something else; or

2. the clear coat has leveled the finish over the marks left on the base if it has been repainted - the only solution would be to sand it down to level the base and repaint it with clear cause the marks are under the clear.

Just an idea though. It would be easier to assess if i could actually have a look personally.
 
If you can not feel it with your nail, and it has not been repainted I would say just keep at it. I have a 02 Tacoma and I made 20 to 30 passes in some areas to clean it up. I also still have a few bird dropping spots on the cab that have not come out fully.
I used M105 with a G100 and 7" yellow pad on most of the truck. :buffing:
 
CieraSL said:
Are you following the M105 with a finishing polish like M205 or are you just using M105 by itself? M105 is a pretty aggressive compound, and as such it can cause micro-marring. Hence the reason for the M105/M205 combo. Looks like you've got some micro-marring going on. Try a finishing polish on a polishing pad and see if that clears it up. Remember to do a test spot!
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Those scratches are definitely not micro-marring from polishing. Lets see what the experts say. :)
 
That is not micro-marring like others seem to think.

They can either be very deep rids what require wetsanding OR they are tracer marks from being wetsanded. I can tell you one thing. This car has been subjected to automatic car washes, as the damages are all straight and uniform.

M105 and LC Yellow is as aggressive a PC can go besides using a surbuf pad. If it isnt knocking it down after several passes then the only possible way to remove them is wet sanding. If the car is a daily driver I would reduce it as much as possible without sanding and leave it at that. Being a daily driver it is going to be constantly subjected to marring. There is no use in perfection. Its something we all have to live with.
 
Lasthope05 said:
That is not micro-marring like others seem to think.
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:iagree:

Lasthope05 said:
They can either be very deep rids what require wetsanding OR they are tracer marks from being wetsanded. I can tell you one thing. This car has been subjected to automatic car washes, as the damages are all straight and uniform.
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They can't be RIDS cause his fingernails couldn't catch it. But come to think of it since he was already working on it, he could've already leveled it up that it wasn't deep enough to catch his fingernail on it.

@twistted - did you try the fingernail approach before starting?

Lasthope05 said:
M105 and LC Yellow is as aggressive a PC can go besides using a surbuf pad. If it isnt knocking it down after several passes then the only possible way to remove them is wet sanding. If the car is a daily driver I would reduce it as much as possible without sanding and leave it at that. Being a daily driver it is going to be constantly subjected to marring. There is no use in perfection. Its something we all have to live with.
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:iagree:
 
rohnramirez said:
They can't be RIDS cause his fingernails couldn't catch it. But come to think of it since he was already working on it, he could've already leveled it up that it wasn't deep enough to catch his fingernail on it.
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RIDS dont have to be so deep that you can feel them. As long as they are deeper than the swirls on the paint they are classified as RIDS.
 
Lasthope05 said:
RIDS dont have to be so deep that you can feel them. As long as they are deeper than the swirls on the paint they are classified as RIDS.
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I see. I just always use the fingernail approach cause i only learned about the classification here at the forum. If it doesn't catch it, you can remove it.
 
I did check using my nail and they are not that deep. He told me later that the scratches are from willows when they are camping and fourwheeling. I am going to use the yellow pad on my PC rotory with the 105 and see how that works then maybe move to 105 on on orange pad and DA to finish it out. Never had this much of a problem with paint ever!
 
I’m no expert...But a yellow pad with a DA on 6 and M105 should be enough to bring that out, by just looking at the pics. I have been fooled before by scratches and I think I can get them out and can't. Do you have a wool pad? If you do give it a try...Toyota has a soft OEM paint.
 
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