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I need new tires on my 2003 Jaguar S-Type. I currently have Michelin Pilot HKMXM4 235/50-17. The car has 53K and I purchased it in 2005 with 44K. So, I don't know if these are the original tires or not. The model of tire is one of the models that did come on the car so it could be the original model.

I have no complaints with the current tire. Since I bought it used, I can't comment on the tire's longevity.

Any recommendations for replacements? I can go with the same tires (about $220 per tire!) or some other options are:

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ($210 ea)
Michelin Pilot Sport Ps2 ($204 ea)
Pirelli P-Zeo System ($233 ea)

All are expensive so performance, sound (quiet) and longevity are my criteria.

I'm leaning toward the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S

Any suggestions appreciated!
 
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I managed 2 districts of auto repair/tire shops for a major retailer 22 stores in all. I've literally sold hundreds of thousands of tires in my stores. I've seen every manufacturer's defect and road hazard you can imagine. You'll find those with different opinions but in mine it's tough to beat Michelin for an all around tire. There are others that perhaps do one thing or another better (i.e. wet traction, dry traction, mileage warranty, all season ability) but all things being equal I buy Michelin. I trust them. If it's a truck I like BFG's A/T also. Depending upon your intended use the A/S might be the best value. That is of course assuming you don't have the need for a snow tire. If you have that need nothing beats a Bridgestone Blizzak.
 
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No need for snow tires in Dallas! Thanks for the advice GearHead_1!
 
I love Michellin tires, but have NEVER gotten anywhere near the mileage rating out of them. They are literally the softest tires on the road. If you are looking for a well rounded tire that wont break the bank consider Toyo's or Nitto's.
 
PS2's are the best tires you can buy. They last around 15k miles. They are really high-performance tires, and I'm not sure if this is what your looking for. My friend has a very nice tuned up 450HP Dodge SRT-4 and he's run through 2 sets (4 tires) since he bought it in '03.
 
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I pput Bridgestone RE750 on my wifes car and they are super smooth going down the road.

I have Blizzaks for the winter and can put the "Crome Horn" on most of the 4x4's in the snow and ice
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
I love Michellin tires, but have NEVER gotten anywhere near the mileage rating out of them. They are literally the softest tires on the road. If you are looking for a well rounded tire that wont break the bank consider Toyo's or Nitto's.
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Driving a Vette to its potential will finish early on just about any tire you put on it. Not sure how you're melting them but as someone who has given away far too many mileage warranty adjustment dollars the above statement just isn't the case as I've seen it. Of course this varies greatly from model line to model line and as a rule the higher the speed rating the softer the compound. Nitto's are a very soft compoud when compared to the others listed. Toyo's about the same as Michelin and a good product. I've watched many sets of T speed rated Michelin's go 80,000 miles plus. They used to offer a 100,000 mile warranty on one particular set of T rated Michelins. Of course they want to see you back so they deliver about 80 or 90% of stated warranty just waiting for the remaining portion to be applied to the new set. This warranty had been changed to an 80,000 mile warranty last time I checked. Most tires when driven under normal circumstances will come close to their stated warranty. If they don't the manufacturer is giving you money back towards the next set. Many of the Z rated tires don't carry mileage warranties. Of course your results may vary and apparently it has.
 
I only run Z-rated tires .... Vettes and Hi-po cars. Worst run to date/ nice ride while it lasted for like 4 months, Michilin XGT-Z (original Viper tire) = 6000 miles on back of my TransAm. And yes, I am hard on tires, but I got 10000 out of the run-craps Supercar Tires this past year .....;)


And worst tire would go to Falken .... hard as crap, and they squealed like fresh meat at the local prison, the cops would come from miles !!!!!
 
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Reddwarf said:
I need new tires on my 2003 Jaguar S-Type. I currently have Michelin Pilot HKMXM4 235/50-17. The car has 53K and I purchased it in 2005 with 44K. So, I don't know if these are the original tires or not. The model of tire is one of the models that did come on the car so it could be the original model.

I have no complaints with the current tire. Since I bought it used, I can't comment on the tire's longevity.

Any recommendations for replacements? I can go with the same tires (about $220 per tire!) or some other options are:

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ($210 ea)
Michelin Pilot Sport Ps2 ($204 ea)
Pirelli P-Zeo System ($233 ea)
Michelin Pilot Sport A/S is the way to go.

All are expensive so performance, sound (quiet) and longevity are my criteria.

I'm leaning toward the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S

Any suggestions appreciated!
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Michelin Pilot Sport AS is the way to go.
I really doubt that you are going to do much racing on a luxury car, and this tire will give you a lot of performance and glued to the road feel.
I just got those for my gf's BMW and she loves them.
You get summer tire performance in all season tire. This is THE BEST all season tire you can buy.
 
Reddwarf said:
I need new tires on my 2003 Jaguar S-Type. I currently have Michelin Pilot HKMXM4 235/50-17. The car has 53K and I purchased it in 2005 with 44K. So, I don't know if these are the original tires or not. The model of tire is one of the models that did come on the car so it could be the original model.

I have no complaints with the current tire. Since I bought it used, I can't comment on the tire's longevity.

Any recommendations for replacements? I can go with the same tires (about $220 per tire!) or some other options are:

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S ($210 ea)
Michelin Pilot Sport Ps2 ($204 ea)
Pirelli P-Zeo System ($233 ea)

All are expensive so performance, sound (quiet) and longevity are my criteria.

I'm leaning toward the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S

Any suggestions appreciated!
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Reddwarf - I had a set of Pilot Sport A/S on my 328ci that I just had to replace. I got over 30K from them with no problems. They were a bit loud but great overall.
However... I just replaced them with the PS2s 6 weeks ago.
Huge difference!!!! The ride is MUCH smoother and quieter. And handling? Cornering and ramp speeds have gone up 10 to 15 miles an hour with better control. The car goes to the suspension limit before just beginning to break free!!
And I have a few suspension upgrades over the sport performance package (Koni adustable Sports, strut tower brace). As well as many power performance upgrades (Conforti intake,Shark software, performance coils, UUC exhaust).

The PS2s may not have as cool looking a tread pattern as the A/Ss, But they perform and ride incredibly.

Highly recommend going for the Michelin PS2 series. You'll have a bunch of fun!
 
Reddwarf - Additionally on the A/Ss: After 32K miles I had to replace the rears. The fronts still had over half the tread left. (245/40 rear 240/35 front). But replaced all four to keep them matched. Car came with Conti Sports (bought it with 35 k on it) and I had a blow out the Day I bought it!! Benn using Michelins for over 25 years and never had a problem with them.
We've had a couple days of rain since I got the PS2s and they handle great in the rain as well. If you play in any snow, you may have to be very carefull. For dry and rain use, the PS2s are the Best!
 
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If I were buying simply for tread design, ie. looks !!
 
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Not sure on the tires however I find it facinating. My 1986 IROQ Z second set was z series General tires first set was Goodyear Gator Backs lasted 30,000 miles. Know I have a truck that is using Firestones. They have been the longest lasting tires. Suggestion if they are original tires do they have a code on the side wall? If they do then I would suggest any tire that matches that code. By the way I know in Michigan they have Bell Tire and they advertise air fills with nitrogen. Nitrogen is less likley to be botheed by the tempreture and heat change I know Nascar use nitrogen instead of air. Good luck
Brian
 
||| NITROFILL NOW |||

done it on truck and Vette ... it does control air pressure and keep them much more stable. One note, going over speedbumps and larger potholes makes the tires feel heavier.
 
tamvegas said:
Reddwarf - I had a set of Pilot Sport A/S on my 328ci that I just had to replace. I got over 30K from them with no problems. They were a bit loud but great overall.
However... I just replaced them with the PS2s 6 weeks ago.
Huge difference!!!! The ride is MUCH smoother and quieter. And handling? Cornering and ramp speeds have gone up 10 to 15 miles an hour with better control. The car goes to the suspension limit before just beginning to break free!!
And I have a few suspension upgrades over the sport performance package (Koni adustable Sports, strut tower brace). As well as many power performance upgrades (Conforti intake,Shark software, performance coils, UUC exhaust).

The PS2s may not have as cool looking a tread pattern as the A/Ss, But they perform and ride incredibly.

Highly recommend going for the Michelin PS2 series. You'll have a bunch of fun!
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The PS2 are more quiet? That is tempting, but theyhave a UTOG rating of 220 AA whereas the A/S tire is 400AA so the A/S should last almost twice as long, no?
 
Reddwarf said:
The PS2 are more quiet? That is tempting, but theyhave a UTOG rating of 220 AA whereas the A/S tire is 400AA so the A/S should last almost twice as long, no?
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Probably, but the handling is far superior on PS2's than any other tire. If you aren't too worried about buying them every 15k miles, PS2's are worth buying; every penny of it.
 
nick19 said:
Probably, but the handling is far superior on PS2's than any other tire. If you aren't too worried about buying them every 15k miles, PS2's are worth buying; every penny of it.
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$1,000 bucks every 15,000 miles?! Yikes. I'm still leaning towards the A/S.
 
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