Need some good recommendations on synthetic waxes

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Looking for some good synthetic waxes that are out on the market right now. I'm looking for actual waxes, not spray waxes or quick details.

Also, after using swirl removers or compunds I generally will use Pinnacle XMT finishing glaze or Pinnacle Advanced glaze; followed by a high quality carnauba.
These glazes as you know contain some carnauba which is great when followed by the carnauba wax. HOWEVER, what's a good glaze (if any) to use before using a synthetic wax or sealant? Is it still safe to use the glazes I mentioned or should the glazes not contain carnauba when using synthetics?

Thanks for all the help! BTW, I plan on being on this forum quite often. I love autogeek!
 
if you want a good synthetic glaze, check out meguiars #7. as far as a nice synthetic wax w/o cleaners that would remove the glazecheck out meguiars #21 layered a few times, or DP Surface Shield.
 
So a better question I suppose is what's a good glaze used with synthetics that doesn't contain carnauba.
 
I would not use any glaze/polish before synthetic sealant.
Remember, you want a clean surface before sealant, otherwise it will not bond.
As far as synthetic wax (sealant) it all depends on what you are looking for.
As warmer finish like carnauba - Wolfgang DGPS.
A brighter finish - DP new formula sealant.
Both of these product mentioned above will leave finish very nice.
 
Meg#7 is full of oils and fillers which is the real culprit to not working well with a sealant (ie synthetic). Most glazes like Wolfgang and Menzerna are actually light polishes with sealant friendly fillers not true glazes.

DP Shield Shine, Duragloss, Klasse Twins, Wolfgang are some of the best synthetics offered.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
Meg#7 is full of oils and fillers which is the real culprit to not working well with a sealant (ie synthetic). Most glazes like Wolfgang and Menzerna are actually light polishes with sealant friendly fillers not true glazes.

DP Shield Shine, Duragloss, Klasse Twins, Wolfgang are some of the best synthetics offered.
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oh really? good info, ive seen number 7 put under so many times at megs forums and the like. thanks for the info, it is noted.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
Meg#7 is full of oils and fillers which is the real culprit to not working well with a sealant (ie synthetic). Most glazes like Wolfgang and Menzerna are actually light polishes with sealant friendly fillers not true glazes.

DP Shield Shine, Duragloss, Klasse Twins, Wolfgang are some of the best synthetics offered.
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so these you mentioned are just used as waxes basically?

I've used Meguiars NXT Liquid before, but wasn't too impressed on it's durability.
 
ryandamartini said:
oh really? good info, ive seen number 7 put under so many times at megs forums and the like. thanks for the info, it is noted.
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With respect to the Meguiar's line they claim that their glaze works just fine with their sealants. I don't think that can be said with other companies LSP's and Meguiar's glaze.
 
Whitethunder46 said:
so these you mentioned are just used as waxes basically?

I've used Meguiars NXT Liquid before, but wasn't too impressed on it's durability.
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NXT is not durable at all, matter of fact Meguiar's #16 will outlast it for sure. #21 is basically NXT will a little better durability. Again, a little better.
But that's another reason Meguiar's NXT suffers form durability, because Meguiar's recommends glaze - oil fillers.
 
I use WG Finishing Glaze and I know others use VM prior to a sealant. And CG's Creme Glaze is suitable as well.
 
New Question. How well would Poorboy's sealant w/ carnauba work on top of the XMT finishing glaze? Should/will it bond correctly? And is this kind of a combination between a sealant and a carnauba?
 
It sounds like you really like glazes. If that's the case why not stick with using a carnauba? It sounds like you're after durability and if that's the case you can't go wrong with the Collonite line. Collonite's waxes are just about as durable as any synthetic sealant. I'm using 845 on my car right now for winter protection. It has great depth and wetness and is very durable.

I wish I had a picture of this . . . yesterday I was parked next to a utility pole. There was a reflection of the pole in my car's hood. It had such amazing depth. It looked like there was a utility pole going straight through my car's hood. The reflection literally looked like it went on forever. Here's the amazing part . . . my car is SILVER.
 
I would only use #7 with Meg's sealants only. Meguiars claims that all of their products are compatible so you should be able to use it that way. Another glaze sealant combination that seems to work together is Clearkote's vanilla moose glaze under Poorboy's EX-P sealant. Other than that I would stick with the product lines Wolfgang's finishing glaze with Wolfgang's sealant.

You really don't need a glaze before a sealant since a sealant's ideal conditions are a very clean paint surface to bond to. I agree with Killerwheel's suggestions. DP, Wolfgang, Duragloss, Klasse and EX-P are all excellent sealants (synthetic waxes) and Mickey C brings up an excellent point as well. The Collinite waxes give great looks and durability too. :)
 
I don't really see a use for a glaze anymore considering how good sealants and carnaubas are today. I know a friend of mine would use RMG under his Souveran and Natty's Blue, and I think he tried it under Blitz Wax. But the very slight difference in look the glaze offers fades away after a wash or two so he doesn't bother anymore and just uses a sealant topped with a nuba.

Maybe if you had a showcar that's rarely driven, but on a daily driver or even weekend car kept in the garage I personally wouldn't bother with glaze. Some like the XMT Nuba Glaze are a little different in that it offers a base layer of carnauba to build on at least. But usually the oil properties in a glaze fade away farely quickly even when topped with something.
 
It also depends on the type and formula of the glaze. Chemical Guys EZ Creme glaze really sticks to your clear and is a solid foundation for a carnuba.

Honestly if your after winter protection, clay and polish the vehicle, and look at some collinite. The line is an excellent one and if you want some looks to go along with that protection, check out the Marque D Excellence.
 
ryandamartini said:
It also depends on the type and formula of the glaze. Chemical Guys EZ Creme glaze really sticks to your clear and is a solid foundation for a carnuba.

Honestly if your after winter protection, clay and polish the vehicle, and look at some collinite. The line is an excellent one and if you want some looks to go along with that protection, check out the Marque D Excellence.
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Doesn't the EX Creme have an acrylic base or something like that? I have read some good stuff on it on other forums, like a hybrid acrylic/glaze type product, or something like that lol.
 
So, the purpose of a glaze is more so to enhance your finishing carnauba wax?

What do most of you do? Glaze with a carnauba? No glaze and synthetic? Or some sort of mix?
 
Whitethunder46 said:
So, the purpose of a glaze is more so to enhance your finishing carnauba wax?

What do most of you do? Glaze with a carnauba? No glaze and synthetic? Or some sort of mix?
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a glaze is an ooooOOhh pretty kind of product

@ Surfer, you are correct. It puts an acrylic layer down, and really gives some nice reflections, especially on black.
 
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