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i have no clue what im doing wrong with the megs swirl x. ive tried using it 3 times now, with each time not removing all the swirls. im using a PC 7424xp with a LC ccs coarse green pad. im doing exactly what you are doing in the video. put the x on the pad and with the buffer on 3 quickly spread the megs into about a 2x2 area. then turn the buffer up to 6 and use moderate pressure for 3-5 or until its broken down. so broken down is until its "dry" or you cant see it anymore?

also, what pisses me off the most, is as i was making my last attempt at swirl removal, the velcro on the pad came off and seperated from the pad itself. is there anything autogeek can do or am i screwed? ill get a pic tomorrow.

one more thing. i got the dual xenon light in my last order in order to make it easier to find swirls. for some reason im not seeing anything, and i know theyre there becuase i can see them under the sun and even better under those lights that have the sulfer bulbs. any help is greatly appreciated. thanks
 
I don't think you want to dry buff. You are buffing to long.
 
If swirl x isn't taking out the swirls move onto ultimate compound or scratch x, also that light, don't look directly at it look to the sides of it to see the swirls and have it a couple feet off the surface
 
ok thanks for the info about the light. i guess ill have to try a more aggressive compound using the same technique and see if that works.

EDIT: i should also point out that my car is a metallic silver, so seeing swirls is hard enough, with a bright light is making it harder. id imagine with the light its easier to see on a dark colored car
 
David@WCD said:
ok thanks for the info about the light. i guess ill have to try a more aggressive compound using the same technique and see if that works.

EDIT: i should also point out that my car is a metallic silver, so seeing swirls is hard enough, with a bright light is making it harder. id imagine with the light its easier to see on a dark colored car
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Here is a little tip that works very well fo me,I polish in the dark,I use a halogen light set off to the side with all shop lights turned off being a light colored car it makes it easier to see the swirls that your trying to remove.

Also cut down the size of area your working so it wont "dry out" on you.

Moving onto a more aggressive compound my be the trick, do a test spot and try it. Megs UC works very well.
 
got pics of the pad that seperated. as you can clearly see, it looks like the glue melted and came off. it also looks like it shrunk. is there anything i can do, or am i just stuck buying another one. i dont think this is supposed to happen. could it also be possible that the pad combined with the pc did not have enough cutting power. i tried 2 different cars. one of which being mine and well taken care of, so the swirls shouldnt have been that bad.
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Your stuck with that pad! What are you working on? A few pics will bring some very helpfull responses.

Heat was the downfall of that pad,maybe trying to do too much at one time? Not sure...try and post more pics of what your trying to do and we can try to help you through it.
 
My opinion is that you are trying to do to much with to little. Switch to Yellow pad and Ultimate compound so you don't have to work it so hard.
Just my 2 cents
 
thanks for the quick responses to the noob questions. as far as the yellow pads, ive been reading that the orange pads dont have much more cut than the coarse green pad. will the yellow and UC make that big of a difference? also as far as the pics, the car is metallic silver, both cars that ive done. its really hard to see in the light. any tips othar than using the light a few feet away? i tried that and i still couldnt see anything. id be more than happy to go out now and try to get pics under the lights in the carport, but id much rather use the light seeing as thats what i bought it for. thanks for the tips
 
Hi David,

David@WCD said:
i have no clue what im doing wrong with the megs swirl x. ive tried using it 3 times now, with each time not removing all the swirls. im using a PC 7424xp with a LC ccs coarse green pad. im doing exactly what you are doing in the video. put the x on the pad and with the buffer on 3 quickly spread the megs into about a 2x2 area. then turn the buffer up to 6 and use moderate pressure for 3-5 or until its broken down. so broken down is until its "dry" or you cant see it anymore?
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  • What are you working on?
  • What color is it?

I don't think the size of the area you're buffing is the biggest factor to the issue but it's affected by the biggest factor. As other's have said, if the SwirlX isn't doing the job fast enough or effectively enough, switch to a more aggressive product.

SwirlX is a very light cleaning polish, it's a tick above M205 and M205 is a very light cleaning polish.


The Aggressiveness Order of SMAT Products - This might surprise you!


Super Micro Abrasive Technology = SMAT
From left to right, the most aggressive to the least aggressive SMAT products
SMATaggressivenessOrder.jpg


From the most to the least aggressive...
M105 Ultra-Cut Compound/M95 Speed Cut Compound = The same in abrading power
Ultimate Compound
ScratchX 2.0
M86 Solo Cut & Polish Cream
D151 Paint Reconditioning Cream
SwirlX
M205 Ultra Finishing Polish
​

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mike, the cars are an 06 sebring and an 04 grand am. both are metallic silver. according to your videos, im supposed to try the least agressive micro-abrasive compound first. i wasnt aware that swirlx had less "cut" than scratchx. figured it wouldve been the other way. anyways, since this isnt working, how does the yellow LC pad and megs UC for the next step in "cutting" level. then followed by the second step in the 3 step mothers system(the sealer and glaze) with a black(gray) LC, followed by wax with a red LC pad. obviously the car should be clayed first in order to prevent any more scratches/marring/swirls in the paint. am i missing anything. i made a retarded mistake and ordered stuff before doing research. are there any other products that may work better than mothers or is it really just personal preference.

Is there any steps that im missing or do i just need to work on technique with the right products? thanks for the help guys
 
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