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well hello! i have a car that is getting swirls and i want to buff it the problem is theres already waxes and selants on the paint? what do i do? dawn wash?? to strip everything or is there a way to get then out?... im new to buffing and im ordering a porter cable 7424XP here any day Porter Cable 7424 Complete Starter Kit, Porter Cable 7424 buffer, Porter Cable power tools this here is what i want to get. i have a rotary buffer and practiced with that. i tried talking to some people and they say what to do is strip it M105 and M205 then a wax . and someone else i talked to said clay then meguiars cleaner wax but idk what to do i need some help! i posted some pics hope they help thanks

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couple of ways u can do it 8)

i suggest dawn wash, 2 bucket method, then clay the whole car. that should have removed all the previous sealant and wax. then u can polish with megs 105/205. which should removed the rest of the sealant and wax IF any is left 8).... once polished.... use your fav sealant/wax or both!! 8):buffing:




Jay
 
I agree with the clay but not necessarily the wash with dawn. Also it doesn't seem that you need to go as aggressive as 105 with what you have there. Try 205 with a white pad first or maybe wg tsr 3.0 and follow with a finishing polish and a grey pad....then a good sealant and avoid those automatic washes and bad towels!
 
a car soap that contains citrus in it. then dilute it. 1 oz every 3-5 gallon for regular car wash and 2 oz every 2 gallon to strip old wax.
 
Platinum Detail said:
Do I assume that the citrus safely removes all waxes and oils from paint?
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Yes, 2oz per every 2 gallons of water... Then some clay will remove anything the cleaner might miss, and any thing else that might still be on your paint...
 
well i do have CG citrus wash so yeah i might go that route in stead of the dawn
 
I just used the CG Wash and Clear to strip the old LSP off of my car this weekend. It worked great and the wash is super super slippery at the wax removal dilution percentage. Great product.
 
so would i still use the 2 bucket wash method with the CG citrus wash? to strip it?
 
If you're polishing, is there any need to strip the existing wax? Wouldn't the abrasives in the polish remove it? The only reason I can think of is that the wax might be hiding some of the swirls. :confused:
 
My process for a do-it-yourself type deal ...........

2 bucket method

You'll do best to wash with Dawn (citrus isn't going to make a difference in cleaning the surface or removing contaminants) to remove the majority of the remaining sealant/wax from the finish
Wash/Dry

Clay
50/50 wipe down or wash/dry again
first round of polishing (this will remove most moderate swirls/marring from the cc)
LSP application

preference ......... I would top the final product with a quality carnauba just to make the color "pop"

Take pictures. :props:
 
First, :welcome: aboard!

This might be a long shot but I'm assuming that you have a relatively new Red Camaro! In looking at the photos you've posted the paint looks in reasonably good shape and "shouldn't" require allot of correction so lets start slowly.

Lets put on order the steps and some recommended products. I'll assume that when you begin you'll have already taken ownership of the Porter Cable 7424 DA polisher and have the correction products you mentioned in your original post.

Work on one panel, preferably a flat surface to begin with. This will allow you to do some testing in order to plan your approach.

Wash - Give the entire car a complete washing. I like Duragloss 901 or DP Auto Bath Shampoo.

Clay - Clay bar an entire panel using detail spray either store bought or mixed using car wash soap and water.

Wipe - With a clean Microfiber towel, wipe the area throughly and inspect to ensure all the embedded debris and particles were successfully removed.

Paint Correction - Lets start off slowly and begin with the least aggressive product. You can always switch to a more aggressive compound but lets begin with Meguiar's M205 polish.

Polish - Tape off a 2' X 2' section. Prepare your polisher and use either a green or white Lake Country 5 1/2 flat pad and corresponding backing plate.

With a black magic marker put a mark on the beveled surface of the pad in order to ensure it's rotating while in use.

Squeeze a couple of ribbons of product on the pad, set the speed control to 5, place the pad on the surface and begin polishing.

Polish in a crisscross pattern across then up and down. Complete 3 of these then inspect the surface for progress. If it's found to be satisfactory complete the correction over the entire panel then proceed to the next step.

IPA Wipe - With a clean Microfiber towel spray the towel and the polished surface with IPA and clean the entire panel removing any residue and oils making the panel ready for either a sealant and or wax.

Sealant - Apply your favorite sealant according to the manufactures instructions. Menzerna Power Lock, Wolfgang Paint Sealant, and Poorboy's World EX-P Sealant are great choices.

Wax - There is a myriad waxes to choose from and I own "most" of them. Pinnacle, Wolfgang, Collinite, Optimum, Poorboy's just to name a few. Apply your personal preference according to the manufactures instruction. Buff with a clean plush Microfiber towel to a glossy shine.
 
well thanks bobbyG and everyone that helped! yes.. i am new and i just want my paint to look good so thanks for all the help and ill make sure to take a bunch of pics shadetree:xyxthumbs:
 
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