NEW 3D GLW series

You have to wonder if part of the reason Mike P left is he thought he had hooked up with a company with a single solid professional lineup, only to find that the bean counters were busy creating another Chemical Guys/Meguiar’s multi line monster


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chilly said:
You have to wonder if part of the reason Mike P left is he thought he had hooked up with a company with a single solid professional lineup, only to find that the bean counters were busy creating another Chemical Guys/Meguiar’s multi line monster


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I read Tunch sold the company. You’d think he would have known that was the direction prior to Mike joining 3D.

I agree this seems like the wrong direction for 3D. They also started posting updated SDS docs for many products removing a lot of information from them.

When a company starts to become less transparent I start to shop elsewhere.
 
dwaleke said:
They also started posting updated SDS docs for many products removing a lot of information from them.
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"Engineering the quality out" I'd hope not! Maybe the competition was trying to copy.
 
dwaleke said:
I read Tunch sold the company. You’d think he would have known that was the direction prior to Mike joining 3D.

I agree this seems like the wrong direction for 3D. They also started posting updated SDS docs for many products removing a lot of information from them.

When a company starts to become less transparent I start to shop elsewhere.
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Wow, that's a lot of info and a lot of change

I sure hope the formulas for the core paint correcting products don't change or suddenly get farmed out to some large bottler
 
chilly said:
Wow, that's a lot of info and a lot of change

I sure hope the formulas for the core paint correcting products don't change or suddenly get farmed out to some large bottler
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Yes the company sold somewhere around the time mike p left. Its unfortunate. I used to buy directly from their website, but since mike left i have not ordered from them. Still have purchased a couple of thier core products that have been around...just from another site.

Hope the products i use dont change anything. Or ill just boycott like ive done with so many other company's.

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Also, i do appriciate that the guz made a review on a product drom the new lineup. Part of me would like to try one of their new products, but im not so much of a fan of having a lineup that has a product for every single aspect of detailing a vehicle. And thats the feeling in getting from the emails i recieved from 3d. As someone else mentioned, it has a chemical guys stench to it. Idk..guess time will tell.

As the saying goes though....dont knock it till ya try it

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This just feels like the new private equity owners are doing a sales and marketing play. It feels cheap and backwards to me. SiO2 Ceramic Interior Detailer? What? Too buzz-wordy for me. When Mike was there it seemed like slow, thoughtful innovation of products where there was a need. 3D wasn't too flashy and their lineup was sorta simple (apart from all those degreasers). The nano-drum line has excellent dilution ratios. This just seems like they made RTU versions of their existing lineup to make you pay for water.

I'm sure the products are fine because their existing products were good. I already use 3D products and added more to my arsenal when Mike joined. But I don't love the direction the company is taking.
 
Here is the one on matte tire. The looks is great. Durability is still being tested.

 
chilly said:
You have to wonder if part of the reason Mike P left is he thought he had hooked up with a company with a single solid professional lineup, only to find that the bean counters were busy creating another Chemical Guys/Meguiar’s multi line monster


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I don’t see how Chemical Guys and Meguiars product lines or marketing are similar at all.

Chemical guys markets towards the casual enthusiast and at most the prosumer.

Meguiars has several product lines but they cater to a specific market and aren’t redundant the way Chemical Guys is, i.e. their Mirror Glaze products aren’t redundant to their Ultimate line, the same way the Ultimate line doesn’t replace the Detailer line of products to the people who buy them.

And the Detailer line serves little to no purpose to the people who use the Mirror Glaze products because they’re not body shop safe.

Chemical Guys on the other hand probably sells 6-8 or more different “spray detailers” or “car wash soaps” in 16oz. bottles to the same consumer and they all basically do the same exact thing.
 
Eldorado2k said:
I don’t see how Chemical Guys and Meguiars product lines or marketing are similar at all.

Chemical guys markets towards the casual enthusiast and at most the prosumer.

Meguiars has several product lines but they cater to a specific market and aren’t redundant the way Chemical Guys is, i.e. their Mirror Glaze products aren’t redundant to their Ultimate line, the same way the Ultimate line doesn’t replace the Detailer line of products to the people who buy them.

And the Detailer line serves little to no purpose to the people who use the Mirror Glaze products because they’re not body shop safe.

Chemical Guys on the other hand probably sells 6-8 or more different “spray detailers” or “car wash soaps” in 16oz. bottles to the same consumer and they all basically do the same exact thing.
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Yeah Meg's is above CG's for sure

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I don’t care what 3D does so long as they don’t mess with Speed and One.

By the way 90% of what I use is 3D products.

This new line seems more like the sickening trend of just attaching the word ‘ceramic’ onto every product offered and selling it with a eye catching, foil wrapped, graphically enhanced label.

I’m good.


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Eldorado2k said:
I don’t see how Chemical Guys and Meguiars product lines or marketing are similar at all.

Chemical guys markets towards the casual enthusiast and at most the prosumer.

Meguiars has several product lines but they cater to a specific market and aren’t redundant the way Chemical Guys is, i.e. their Mirror Glaze products aren’t redundant to their Ultimate line, the same way the Ultimate line doesn’t replace the Detailer line of products to the people who buy them.

And the Detailer line serves little to no purpose to the people who use the Mirror Glaze products because they’re not body shop safe.

Chemical Guys on the other hand probably sells 6-8 or more different “spray detailers” or “car wash soaps” in 16oz. bottles to the same consumer and they all basically do the same exact thing.
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I did not intend to compare the quality of Megs to CG

Apples and oranges for the most part

I was talking about the simplicity of the 3D lineup prior to the recent changes and additions

To me a lot of the draw to 3D was the quality of the products of course, but also the very simple lineup which had just what some people needed or wanted without getting bogged down in trying to choose from half a dozen shampoos that might or might not do the same thing, just as an example

Other people probably love trying every flavor of shampoo or detailing spray or whatever in the lineups of other companies

If that’s their thing more power to them

I’m just saying that like others on here have stated; 3D looks to ME that they are going down a route I would rather they didn’t

It’s not like there is a shortage of companies that put out quality detailing products

To each his/her own


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The Guz said:
Here is the one on matte tire. The looks is great. Durability is still being tested.

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Excellent review. I watched on your channel. It's exactly the finish I'm looking for. I ordered the small bottle to try it.

Thanks, Mike.
 
The Guz said:
Here is the one on matte tire. The looks is great. Durability is still being tested.

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Ordered. Also seems to give the look ive been looking for. Need a change up from megs m40 lol

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Don't waste your money on ceramic wash. It is junk.

 
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