New Jeep has Xzilon protectant on it - what to use from now on?

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My wife and I just bought a new Jeep Rubicon... mostly to tow behind our motorhome during our travel as photographers.

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And, we got suckered into buying Xzilon paint protection on the Jeep. I'm sure it's a good sealant, but we paid way more than we needed to for a good sealant. Anyway, water under the bridge now, so... moving forward.

The finish is fantastic now, but pulling the Jeep behind a diesel pusher motorhome, I'm sure the paint is going to take a bit of a beating and I know I'm going to need to start using a protectant/sealant on a fairly regular basis.

With Xzilon protectant on it now, does it matter what we use on it in the future?
 
Id probably just polish it off and use something that you know/understand how to use it. Or wait a year, it will probably be gone by then.
 
From what I know about Xzilon is that is similar to other paint coating systems like Opti-coat. They say you do not have to re-apply it and that it is good for the term of the warranty but since it is just a surface coating, I am sure it has a certain life span.

I do know that with the product, you want to stay away from anything abrasive as this will remove the product. Carnauba is the only protectant recommended from Xzilon and since it is a warranty based product, I would adhere to their rules strictly.

Basically I would follow a proper washing schedule using a good soap, and then topping it with a wax every so often.
 
Thanks for the replies. While the warranty is the major part of what one pays for when buying Xzilon on a new vehicle, I think I'm more interested in getting with a good paint coating system that I can keep up with than I am about rigidly adhering to Xzilon's requirements to maintain their warranty.

As you both say, the existing Xzilon protectant is going to wear out over time, say, perhaps a year or two... or less or more...

Discounting the Xzilon warranty... do you think there would be any risk to the paint finish to start using another sealant on the vehicle while Xzilon is still on it, such as Opti-Coat?
 
DHart said:
Discounting the Xzilon warranty... do you think there would be any risk to the paint finish to start using another sealant on the vehicle while Xzilon is still on it, such as Opti-Coat?
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Yes, as you would have to polish the car to remove the Xzilon before you could apply the Opti-coat as the paint needs to be bare before applying a surface coating like opti-coat and the others.
 
reality33 said:
Yes, as you would have to polish the car to remove the Xzilon before you could apply the Opti-coat as the paint needs to be bare before applying a surface coating like opti-coat and the others.
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Dang. OK. Polishing off a product I just paid to put on isn't such a great idea. Plus, polishing a brand new car isn't such a great idea either, is it...

I guess the best thing to do is just let the Xzilon wear out on it's own and in the meantime apply simple waxes on it. I understand that carnuba is approved by Xzilon. Would it be safe to apply most any wax-based type product on top of the Xzilon?
 
DHart said:
Dang. OK. Polishing off a product I just paid to put on isn't such a great idea. Plus, polishing a brand new car isn't such a great idea either, is it...

I guess the best thing to do is just let the Xzilon wear out on it's own and in the meantime apply simple waxes on it. I understand that carnuba is approved by Xzilon. Would it be safe to apply most any wax-based type product on top of the Xzilon?
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I dont see why not, just make sure that the product does not contain any abrasives in it and you should be ok. Most of the carnauba waxes here at AG will suffice. The Xzilon is already a sealant, and that is most likely the reason why they say to use a Carnauba. Putting a sealant on top of a surface coating does not really have any merit to it.

Oh and polishing a new car is perfectly OK, I do it all the time :)
 
DHart said:
... pulling the Jeep behind a diesel pusher motorhome, I'm sure the paint is going to take a bit of a beating...
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To lessen the effects of the diesel soot & other crap from the road you could buy a car cover.
 
Xzillion is not a coating to my knowledge, simply a paint sealant. It does offer a warranty that matches the standard paint warranty on most cars, meaning complete profit. Dont believe the hype .. do it yourself !!
 
The Collinite 845W sounds like a good product to use over the Xzilon. Easy to apply and very effective.

I have not delusions of expecting the Xzilon to be anything other than a paint sealant. As such, I'm sure it's an effective and good quality sealant with a limited life of service.

Now that it's on the car, I will get what life I can out of it. When it's time is up (3 months, 6 months,1 year, 2 years? who knows), I can apply more myself or switch to another paint sealant system.

In the meantime it looks like the best course is to keep treatments of Collinite 845 or Souverän Liquid Carnauba Wax on it until such time as a new sealant application is needed.

If that doesn't seem to be protecting the front of the Jeep enough while pulling it behind the motorhome, I'll look into a cover or clear bra as well.

You guys have been so helpful! Many thanks.

Is it pretty certain that I cannot begin applying a different brand of paint sealant on TOP of the existing Xzilon sealant?
 
DHart said:
Is it pretty certain that I cannot begin applying a different brand of paint sealant on TOP of the existing Xzilon sealant?
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This is your comment: "The Collinite 845W sounds like a good product to use over the Xzilon. Easy to apply and very effective."

Yes, you can apply it now.

"If that doesn't seem to be protecting the front of the Jeep enough while pulling it behind the motorhome, I'll look into a cover or clear bra as well."

I would skip that idea as the jeep is being towed and well protected plus a car cover will do more damage from the wind than good. BTW congrats on your new jeep and I envey both of you. :xyxthumbs: Are both of you pro photographers?
 
Rsurfer... I am a pro photographer and my wife is a graphic artist.

Now I have to decide what to do about a paint protection scheme on the 41' motorhome, which has full body paint...

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Outstanding, are the graphics OEM or something your wife did? Are the graphics painted or vinyl? It may be worth your time and money to get that beast coated.
 
that is a beautiful home on wheels you have there.
just remember to regularly wash,clay and wax your jeep. the xzilon coating will not last as long as the warranty but hey it's all good,you have the warranty. I worked for a dealership that sold it, and before xzilon it was simoniz. and before that it was autoarmor. and out of all them,xzilon was the only one that I dealt with that actually stood behind their warranty.
I applied it to the wifes car a little over 2 years ago and it is still holding up.her car gets washed once a week and clayed and waxed 2-3 times a year.

as a foot note,if your ever in N.E. Wisconsin look me up. I have several cases of xzilon laying around compliments of a rep.
 
Rsurfer... on second thought... I think you're right a cover being continually buffeted by the wind could cause some significant wear on the finish. No cover. Hopefully with a good coat of liquid carnuba (Collinite 845IW or Souverän Liquid Carnauba Wax) on top of the Xzilon, the Jeep should be fairly well protected and clean up pretty easily with something like Crystal Mist Carnauba Detail Spray.

How about the black polymer fenders and bumpers?... I believe the dealership coated them with Xzilon as well... should I be putting carnuba wax on top of the Xzilon on the polymer fenders and bumpers or is there a better product for those areas?

T.O.C. thanks for your comments! Does the clay need to be done even on a fairly new finish? Does claying accelerate wear of the sealant?

Sounds like the Xzilon on my Jeep may last a couple of years if maintained with with regular washing and waxing.
 
By all means 845 everything that is coated with Xzilon. No claying necessary as your paint is already sealed. What are you going to do with the paint on the motorhome?
 
I dont know much about xzilion, but I don't think I would coat the plastics with the Collinite. I would consider something ultima ttg. Just my opinion though.

As far as cleanup after towing I would use ONR. if you want to go to just a spray wash, or true waterless, then I would use a waterless wash like DP. those two options will protect your paint much better then a detail spray for cleaning. links below.

Ultima Tire & Trim Guard Plus, tire & trim protectant, tire dressing, rubber protectant

Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 128 oz. New Formula!

DP Waterless Auto Wash Concentrate & Detail Bottle
 
Rsurfer said:
What are you going to do with the paint on the motorhome?
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We bought the motor home from the original owner. Can't remember what he was using on it for finish care, but I will try to find out.

I would like to have it detailed (washed, cleaned, polished, sealed) with a good and readily available product system that I can then maintain myself with washing and spray on maintenance products/detailers.

Any thoughts or recommendations on this?
 
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