NEW McKess 37 pollen X

I still think pollen is too abrasive to wipe. Sure, polymers encapsulate it but it might still lead to marring. Not sure I’d be brave enough to try this product.
 
Interesting attempt at a product solution to a common problem.

No mention of using it on a ceramic coated vehicle (or any LSP type for that matter). That would be important info to include in the product marketing IMHO.
 
BadgerRivFan said:
Interesting attempt at a product solution to a common problem.

No mention of using it on a ceramic coated vehicle (or any LSP type for that matter). That would be important info to include in the product marketing IMHO.
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I was thinking this as well.

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BadgerRivFan said:
Interesting attempt at a product solution to a common problem.

No mention of using it on a ceramic coated vehicle (or any LSP type for that matter). That would be important info to include in the product marketing IMHO.
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It says it leaves some protection behind and makes the next pollen removal easier. I would take that as it’s not ideal to be used on coatings as it will change then behavior of whatever is touching the coating and therefore not giving you the benefits of a coating.
 
Mike@ShineStruck said:
We need something for artillery spores.
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Something with a long attachment as those artillery fungi can shoot their spores up to two stories high ... :laughing:

On a more serious note, avoiding organic landscape mulch is the best way to avoid pesky artillery fungus. I got so tired of cleaning our house that I removed every single shred of mulch and replaced it all with the rubber mulch. Problem solved. Most mulch sold nowdays is a mishmash regrind of landscape debris, trimmings, etc., and is a breeding ground for fungus.
 
BSoares said:
I still think pollen is too abrasive to wipe. Sure, polymers encapsulate it but it might still lead to marring. Not sure I’d be brave enough to try this product.
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I think you are right as the outer part of a spore, aka the spore coat, is made of keratin and is very hard/tough. This is one of the reasons why spores can survive so long and resist so many things ... chemicals, heat, UV, etc.

My guess is that a really good, thorough blasting of water, followed by a careful wash with lots of good, slippery soap water, remains the safest way to deal with pollen.
 
BSoares said:
You use bead maker when you want more pollen to stick to the paint. Maybe use BM first and then you’ll have plenty of pollen to test Pollen-X on.
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Yeah same thing I was thinking.

Interesting product for sure. While I don't like doing a waterless or rinseless when the car is full of pollen, I would use it after a wash like a detail spray. I wonder how it affects the water behavior of the LSP?
 
BSoares said:
It says it leaves some protection behind and makes the next pollen removal easier. I would take that as it’s not ideal to be used on coatings as it will change then behavior of whatever is touching the coating and therefore not giving you the benefits of a coating.
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Yes, makes sense and certainly could be the case.

Although ONR also leaves polymers behind that makes the next wash easier, and it works just fine on coated vehicles without negatively impacting the characteristics of the coating.

More questions than answers currently with this product.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this product? I love many of the McKee's products and will continue to use them, but this just seems like they are going way too deep into niche products.

I don't see how this product wouldn't be any different from WW's or RW's which leave behind a sealant or wax. Using them heavily on a pollen covered car would work just the same. If it's too thick, you have to rinse it off to safely clean the car. I also don't understand the "repel automotive surfaces of stubborn pollen" comment. If the pollen is in the air and a car is uncovered, pollen will land on it. The only way to really repel pollen is to cover the vehicle. Coatings or slick sealants will help the pollen stick less to the surface, but if it's in the air and the vehicle is outside, it will still collect pollen.

On a humorous side note, you can tell where McKee's is located as the product copy is very Florida centric talking about tree pollen from "January to April" and grass pollen in the "summer". Around here, the plants don't even start waking up and pollenating until April. Depending on how cold and wet the spring is, it might be even later. At that point EVERYTHING explodes and pollenates at once; flowers, shrubs, trees, grass, everything. Grass does continue on much longer into spring, but seems to taper off in June as things start to dry out from the spring rains.
 
I really like how mckees tackles particular problems. I just bought and used their floor mat cleaner and revitalizer. Just another bottle in my collection, but it worked really well. Heck i have a bottle of poorboys bird sh!t remover, so maybe this could be a winner? My only concern would be the other contaminants on the car besides pollen...
 
I'm glad to see so much excitement over this product. :righton:

To answer a couple common questions....

1. Yes it is compatible with the entire McKee's 37 line, including our ceramic coatings.
2. Would this be my first choice to remove pollen if I had time and access to a traditional wash? No, because nothing beats flooding the surface with water from a hose. Where this product excels is its ability to help repel pollen. Future cleaning will be much, much easier after using this product.

Desertnate said:
Am I the only one who doesn't understand this product? I love many of the McKee's products and will continue to use them, but this just seems like they are going way too deep into niche products.
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If you watch my videos you'll hear me say over and over again....as a problem solving company... ;)

Desertnate said:
I don't see how this product wouldn't be any different from WW's or RW's which leave behind a sealant or wax. Using them heavily on a pollen covered car would work just the same. If it's too thick, you have to rinse it off to safely clean the car. I also don't understand the "repel automotive surfaces of stubborn pollen" comment. If the pollen is in the air and a car is uncovered, pollen will land on it. The only way to really repel pollen is to cover the vehicle. Coatings or slick sealants will help the pollen stick less to the surface, but if it's in the air and the vehicle is outside, it will still collect pollen.
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Pollen-X shares a lot of its bones with a waterless wash formulation. What we discovered (by accident no less) is just how well this acrylic polymer that we developed resists pollen build up. How? I couldn't tell you, and neither can my chemist, but it's incredible how well this concoction of chemicals works to keep your vehicle clean and shiny. It's magic in a bottle. :)

Desertnate said:
On a humorous side note, you can tell where McKee's is located as the product copy is very Florida centric talking about tree pollen from "January to April" and grass pollen in the "summer". Around here, the plants don't even start waking up and pollenating until April. Depending on how cold and wet the spring is, it might be even later. At that point EVERYTHING explodes and pollenates at once; flowers, shrubs, trees, grass, everything. Grass does continue on much longer into spring, but seems to taper off in June as things start to dry out from the spring rains.
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We are indeed located in Florida! :laughing:
 
Nick McKees37 said:
I'm glad to see so much excitement
over this product. :righton:

2. Would this be my first choice to remove pollen
if I had time and access to a traditional wash? No,
because nothing beats flooding the surface with
water from a hose.

Where this product excels is its ability to help
repel pollen. Future cleaning will be much,
much easier after using this product.



If you watch my videos you'll hear me say over
and over again....as a problem solving company... ;)


What we discovered (by accident no less) is just
how well this acrylic polymer that we developed
resists pollen build up. How? I couldn't tell you,
and neither can my chemist, but it's incredible
how well this concoction of chemicals works to
keep your vehicle clean and shiny.

It's magic in a bottle. :)
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I was hoping that, someday, someone I
knew would ‘refresh’, and then re-purpose
(Jeff’s) WERKSTÄT’s polyethylene-acrylic
nano-scale-polymers formulation?!?!

:dunno:

Bob
 
Nick, does it repel anything other than pollen, like dust?
 
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