NEW! Meguiar’s Foam Buffing Discs

This is amazing news and results. I remember when Meguiar's introduced their MF pads on their correction system, the pads is what made the machine absolute. The MF cutting pad was so easy to use and would correct the paint flawless. Now these pads come out. I wouldnt be surprised if they sold out that quickly. I know I will be ordering once they become available.
 
Thanks for the excellent writeup Mike, these pads look awesome!!! Definitely gonna be getting some and trying them out.

I have had major issues with M101 dusting a ton when combining it with microfiber pads. Do you feel like it dusts any less when paired with these new foam pads? Because it sure looks like they cut just as well!
 
Oh great, now there are MORE pads for me to try and choose from, as if I wasn't confused enough already ;)
 
Oh great, now there are MORE pads for me to try and choose from, as if I wasn't confused enough already ;)

Yeah, right? And only recently have I found a use for my 10 yo original Soft Buff (the ones you couldn't wash) pads--on my Flex! (BTW I did clean them in my pad washer after and they didn't die). So I guess it will be another 10 years or so before I get to try these new pads...
 
Get the pads. Use them. And I'm sure you'll agree that thin pads are THE way to go with most dual action polishers.

That is my plan, I am just about through with what I have and was holding off on buying new ones hoping that something would come out at SEMA and I'm quite happy that I waited now. :props:
 
Fantastic review Mike thank you. :xyxthumbs:

I really want to get my hands on some of these. Any idea as to when they may be available? Way cool. :dblthumb2:

Aaryn NZ.
 
Thanks Mike,

Great write up and great pictures. I've been waiting for some thin pads like these to come out for a long time.

I have been trying to decide what pads I'm ordering next and my mind is made up. These will be in my next order. Hope they are available soon.
 
Thanks for the excellent writeup Mike, these pads look awesome!!! Definitely gonna be getting some and trying them out.

I have had major issues with M101 dusting a ton when combining it with microfiber pads. Do you feel like it dusts any less when paired with these new foam pads? Because it sure looks like they cut just as well!


Have you tried M100 or D300 with DAMF Pads?
 
Great write up Mike. Very informative on these new pads. As usual the team did a great job.
 
Thanks for the info. My brain hurts from all the learnin' I've been doin' lately.

Is that "older gentleman" wearing a big, honkin' belt buckle while working on that car?
 
Fantastic review Mike thank you. :xyxthumbs:

I really want to get my hands on some of these. Any idea as to when they may be available? Way cool. :dblthumb2:

Aaryn NZ.

Not sure when the new pads will start shipping but when they do there will be an announcement.

Thin is in and I expect to see other pad manufactures introducing new thinner pads in the future.



Great write up Mike. Very informative on these new pads. As usual the team did a great job.


Thank you. I met the owner at this show....

Pictures: Autogeek at the 6th Annual Palm City Fall Fest Car Show!


After talking to him about the finish on his car he knew it was bad but didn't know how to fix it himself or who to trust to fix it for him.

So it worked out perfect to showcase the new thin pads from Meguiar's.

The normal thick pads are good but it's the thin foam pads that are a great new introduction to the detailing market by Meguiar's.

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Mike, how do these pads behave and perform on the Flex 3401 VRG? In your new book they are shown and talked about briefly on page 18. You make it clear that the Flex 3401 prefers or likes thicker/stiff pads such as the hybrids. Are these pads an exception? I dont feel they wouldve been pointed out or mentioned if they didnt work. The use of the new rotary pads is also briefly mentioned as well. Thanks!
 
Mike, how do these pads behave and perform on the Flex 3401 VRG? In your new book they are shown and talked about briefly on page 18.

You make it clear that the Flex 3401 prefers or likes thicker/stiff pads such as the hybrids.

Are these pads an exception?

Not sure if the word exception is the best word to describe Meguiar's thin pads for the Flex 3401. While I'm a "word guy" I'm not sure I can find a word that best describes these pads on the Flex 3401.

Here's what I do know...


These thin pads work just fine on the Flex 3401. That's a fact in the context that thick pads don't work well on free floating spindle bearing assembly polishers, which is also a fact.

Meguiar's did their field testing on these thin pads for use with the Flex 3401. If Meguiar's gives a pad the green light you can trust the field testing feedback supports their promotion for using these pads with this tool. Meguiar's historically gets their ducks in a row before launching a new product.

That said, all foam pads wear down. Can I get a witness?

This being true, my guess is due to pressure over time and heavy use by caveman detailers, if all pads wear down over time with use then a foam pad with less mass or substance, will wear out sooner with heavy use than a thick pad. It's just plain physics.

I went into my testing of the thin pads on the Flex 3401 with a bias because my experience tells me direct drive tools work fine with thick pads. It's not that they won't work fine with thin pads it's just more mass doesn NOT affect their performance because they are direct drive.

You cannot say that about dual action polishers that are not direct drive. That is to say, non-direct drive tools work better with less mass to maintain pad rotation thus non-direct drive tools work better with thin pads.

So going into the testing with a bias based upon what I know about tools, pads and practical use plus experience, I was surprised to find out these thin foam pads work just fine on the direct drive, gear-driven Flex 3401.

The foam provides cushion and this makes for a good buffing experience to you and I.

Thin buffing pads without cushion on the other hand don't buff well in my experience. This would include thin microfiber pads with thin foam cushion. You can find discussions on this topic elsewhere on the forum.

So yeah.... these pads buff just fine on the Flex 3401 and this is why I included them in my new Flex 3401 how-to book.



I don't feel they wouldve been pointed out or mentioned if they didnt work.

Correct. I'm uber careful when I write and this includes picking and choosing each and every single word I type on any public forum. I also would not recommend a product that I didn not believe in or would not use myself on my own car.


The use of the new rotary pads is also briefly mentioned as well.

Thanks!

Meguiar's invented or at least "introduced" the foam buffing pad to the automotive industry back in 1965. I own several of these first foam buffing pads.

In 1965 Meguiar's introduced the first foam buffing pad for use in place of a wool cutting or wool finishing pad; this enabled a person to create a more swirl-free finish by getting away from the individual fibers that make up a wool or fiber type buffing pad.

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While it's no longer in any condition to buff out a car the picture kind of relays the idea of a long time, as in the Wooless Wonder was introduced a long time ago and since then we've continued to bring out new and innovative buffing pads for professionals, detailers and enthusiasts.

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For perspective, Gilligan's Island debuted in 1965 in Black & White and in 1965, Ford introduced the Mustang. (technically in 1964 1/2)

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Walter Cotton is the man that actually invented the first foam buffing pads.


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Wow! Incredibly cool Mike! Very nice to see the Meguiar's pad lineup revamped and also in a smaller thinner pad.


Another home run by Jason Rose and team. I've pointed this out before but here goes again....

When Meguiar's rolled out their microfiber DA correction system it was an effort to change the industry to get it away from swirling out cars with rotary buffers by switching over to dual action polishers.

In order to get the CUT or correction action offered by a rotary buffer when using a dual action polisher, that is a tool that is NOT direct drive, they increased the correction power by using incredibly THIN pads. If you measure the new Xtra Cut Microfiber Pad it's about 1/8" thin. That's THIN!

The problem with microfiber pads is they are a FIBER pad and each individual fiber has the ability CUT THE PAINT so this is why microfiber is best for the correction step but in the big picture, foam will always finish out nicer on a wider spectrum of paint systems, (hard and soft paint systems).

The big picture is this...

Thin pads rotate better than thick pads.

I point this out in my first how-to book on page 76 and 91.


The Porter Cable Dual Action Polisher was original a Wood Sander and the sanding discs used on wood sanders are as thin as a piece of paper. The PC was taken from the wood sanding industry and introduced to the paint polishing industry sometime around 1989ish as near as I can remember. Why it took so long for thin foam pads to come out is still a mystery to me but the change as taken place and the future is thin foam pads for these types of tool.




Hahaha, those pads look familiar. Thanks for sharing all of the pics and review Mike!

Hope you and everyone enjoy them... that's the last of this type of mega picture write-up...



Was totally not expecting this, but 5.5" pads was my response to their sema question on mol!!!

I read that... good guess....


Haha! I've used Meguiar's pads since the late 90's, and am happy to be able to use them in the 5.5" size on my pc!

Not only are you going to like using them but you'll get the job done faster and better....


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We used Nanoskin towels and mitts to mechanically decontaminate the paint but just to see what was on the paint I used some detailing clay and clayed only a section of the trunk lid and here's what came off....


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Even cool looking Camaros like this one get contaminated over time.


If you want to know if your car needs to be clayed do the "Baggie Test".



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Nice write up Mike!!! How would you compare the cut of the Red pad to a typical orange foam pad???
 
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