New to the game...

IMO you will get the best advice and products from AutoGeek. CG has some OK stuff (shampoos, APCs, etc...), but the knowledge is distributed a little more "cleanly" around here if your a new guy. Also - you will need a machine polishing set up to get rid of your light scratches. If you need help (and you likely will) - you will get the best/most/fastest help here. CG is OK, AGO is top of the line.

I'm going to make some recommendations based on products I've used that are EASY to use, satisfying/fun to use, and are top notch.

1. Clay: you need some type of decon. I would get Pinnacle Clay because it's not super aggressive and your car is black. Aggressive clay can mar/scratch. Of course, installing extra scratches is never a good idea - even if your polishing afterwards - especially if you are new to claying.

2. Clay lube: get a bottle of Ultima Waterless Wash Plus. It's a no-rinse/waterless wash that has a zillion uses - one of them is a clay lube. It's generally considered the benchmark.

3. Iron decon: paint often has iron particles in it. Get IronX to remove. It's a spray. If your not sure what this is or how it's done, check out the product on You Tube in action. It's a necessary step once a year or so.

4. Polisher: Griots Garage 6". Trust me in this one. You can spend 2x as much + on a polisher - but it won't be as versatile as this machine. I know you have a PC - but the GG6 is worth picking up.

5. Pads: I would get Buff N Shine pads. However, the pads that are sold by AG are OK and work well, but IME BnS pads hold up better. You will need cutting, polishing, and finishing pads - 3 of each at the minimum. The reason why you need so many types of pads is you won't know how the paint will react until you actually go to polish it.

6. Polish: I would get the 3 WG (Wolfgang) polishes. If your swirls are light, you probably only need the TSR and FG. But you won't know for sure until you try.

7. *** So, all the above products will add up to hundreds of $$$. You may not want to go that route at this time. This is the stuff to get if your trying to make the car PERFECT. If you just want to "clean it up" and wax it - Get Prima Amigo. It gets paint ready for a wax and leaves it looking great (hides some scratches/swirls).

Please trust me here. Prima Amigo is a light polish/pre-wax cleaner/ and acrylic type glaze all in one product. Anyone with 1 functioning arm can use it by hand/machine and get very good results. Wipe off is effortless and it will leave your paint ready to be waxed. You use this after claying and iron decon.

Amigo can also be used with a machine on a variety of pads to prep the paint for wax. The more aggressive the pad - the more aggressive Amigo becomes. But, it's mainly a prep product - not a swirl remover. It won't remove scratches - but it leaves a shiny glazed finish.

8. Wax: really you can pick any quality wax. The real difference in how the paint will look will come from machine polishing - not which wax you pick. But a good wax that is easy AND fun to use is Dodo Juice Blue Velvet Pro. I think it's about $80. If $80 is too much, go with P21S Concours Wax. I think it's about $35. That is also easy and enjoyable to use. I have Pete's 53 as well, it's a good wax - but these are better IMHO.

9. Towels: you need some decent towels. Towels from Autozone shouldn't touch your paint. Get some decent towels from AG. I'd start with some Cobra Golds 16x16". These towels are universal enough to do almost any job on paint.

Fantastic feedback... and thanks for taking that time to type it out.. I appreciate the help. A lot to take in there...
I did some reading up on Collinte 476s doublecoat wax last night... people mentioned they've been using it for years, never will go to anything else and it's lasts for at least 6 months or more on one application.

Any feedback on that?

I'll look into the Dodo and Concours as well. With that said, what pads when using a DA machine would be best for application and removal of a wax? I've heard the best pads are either LC pads, or Hex Logic.
As my paint is "near perfect", minor swirls if that... (will see once the snow/salt goes away)... what pads would be good for this?

Thanks!
 
Fantastic feedback... and thanks for taking that time to type it out.. I appreciate the help. A lot to take in there...
I did some reading up on Collinte 476s doublecoat wax last night... people mentioned they've been using it for years, never will go to anything else and it's lasts for at least 6 months or more on one application.

Any feedback on that?

I'll look into the Dodo and Concours as well. With that said, what pads when using a DA machine would be best for application and removal of a wax? I've heard the best pads are either LC pads, or Hex Logic.
As my paint is "near perfect", minor swirls if that... (will see once the snow/salt goes away)... what pads would be good for this?

Thanks!

I like Collinite 915. But, I've never tired any of their other waxes. It's supposed to be their best looking wax - and 2nd longest lasting. It's a very good wax and I thought of recommending it as well. It's only about $30. It doesn't have the boutique feel some of the others do (comes in a tin can), but it's a nice product.

As for pads, I don't use pads/machines to apply wax. It's just easier and more precise for me to apply wax by hand. But, you will need pads if you want to go after those light scratches. Since this is AG, I'll recommend what they sell here - LC CCS pads. You want to get orange (cutting), white (polishing), and black (if you want to use it with wax). While they aren't my favorite pads, they are my favorite pads sold HERE for a PC style polisher and they will work just fine.

Hex Logic pads are made by BnS I believe. I have the whole line in the self centering 4" pads - and yes they are extremely good pads IMO.
 
Anyone else impressed that the LC pads are made in the USA? I was happily surprised. Not that I would buy only because of that since some things like my MF towels I want to be made in Korea. Just thought it was cool. Does AG produce the LC pads, meaning is Lake Country AutoGeek's brand? Just curious due to the packaging of the pads.

OP- take the advise and get tons of pads. I have 17 and I haven't even used a single one yet. I made my initial $400-500 order (w/ 15% off) and got 9 pads. Then made another order and added another 8 pads to that order since I read people on here breaking down the pad count, and if you 2 step and apply sealant by PC, you are going to need lots of pads. Multiple per step is what I learned, so I knew I needed more pads.

Also, it takes pads to start with the "least aggressive method first". So you have 2 white pads and 1 orange pad, and try to get a defect up with a medium cut polish. Start w/ the white pad, doesn't get it up, move to the orange pad. Doesn't work. So now you go to a compound w/ a white pad, doesnt work, so moving on to orange. Oh wait, you dont have anymore fresh orange pads. Bam, your stuck. See what I mean?

That is just an example I made up on the fly, if it isn't coherent then you can ignore it, I'm just trying to help :laughing:
 
Anyone else impressed that the LC pads are made in the USA? I was happily surprised. Not that I would buy only because of that since some things like my MF towels I want to be made in Korea. Just thought it was cool. Does AG produce the LC pads, meaning is Lake Country AutoGeek's brand? Just curious due to the packaging of the pads.

OP- take the advise and get tons of pads. I have 17 and I haven't even used a single one yet. I made my initial $400-500 order (w/ 15% off) and got 9 pads. Then made another order and added another 8 pads to that order since I read people on here breaking down the pad count, and if you 2 step and apply sealant by PC, you are going to need lots of pads. Multiple per step is what I learned, so I knew I needed more pads.

Also, it takes pads to start with the "least aggressive method first". So you have 2 white pads and 1 orange pad, and try to get a defect up with a medium cut polish. Start w/ the white pad, doesn't get it up, move to the orange pad. Doesn't work. So now you go to a compound w/ a white pad, doesnt work, so moving on to orange. Oh wait, you dont have anymore fresh orange pads. Bam, your stuck. See what I mean?

That is just an example I made up on the fly, if it isn't coherent then you can ignore it, I'm just trying to help :laughing:

No, I completely get it! Thank you. I'm realizing more and more that I don't need the PC to apply remove wax... Just thought I'd get through the job quicker with it... Microfibre bonnets? But for doing the paint correction... Which will be minor, then I'll have to get into some polish and white pads.

I think I've been focusing on wax too much... Now I need to do some homework on polishes and sealants.

Anyway... Great suggestion.
 
No, I completely get it! Thank you. I'm realizing more and more that I don't need the PC to apply remove wax... Just thought I'd get through the job quicker with it... Microfibre bonnets? But for doing the paint correction... Which will be minor, then I'll have to get into some polish and white pads.

I think I've been focusing on wax too much... Now I need to do some homework on polishes and sealants.

Anyway... Great suggestion.
Yep, I started worrying about the wax and sealant first too, then as I learned more over a month of research I figured out all the other products that go into it. Almost $1000 later and I'm getting ready to make another order of some odds and ends and maybe a few MF towels. I'm at 8 quality MF towels and 1 waffle weave to spot dry. I'm just a hobbyist, not a professional.
 
It's amazing what you can learn in 3 weeks... and I would have probably learned even more if my wife didn't give me so much poop about reading on the ipad all the time..!

Anyway, on Swanicyouth's suggestion, did some homework on the Wolfgang TSR & glaze combo... that really does look like a no brainer, and the way to go for my situation.
I was really looking at Menzerna's products or Meg's, but since my damage isn't all that bad... I think the right pad/WG combo will do just fine.

Putting my wishlist together... we're getting close to an order here!
 
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