NEW!! Wolfgang Fuzion Carnauba Polymer Concours Wax!

i will say this wax looks interesting. I am having trouble pulling the triger for a few reasons. The biggest one is thisis a new offering that is like nothing else AG sells, its an atempt at the 'luxery" wax market. Other waxes I have tried from AG have no overly impressed me, however having said that I know this is a new product and should be judged accordiingly...

Killer you mentioned people judging it before they try it.. welcome to the world of high end waxes... the same is doen to SV, Zymol, heck even VW (which to mean is not that expensive). This wax is no diffrent, it must prove it is worth its salt first, and even then it will have those who bash it because of the price...

Scott you also mentioned to someone to save there money on titanium, carbon and onxy i think. I am going to have to respectully disagree (as i always do lol) and say that a person needs to try it to see if they like it. I understand that this is an AG forum and as such selling AG products is one of its purposes. You also mentioned that each person has a diffrent opion on every wax.. well these are no diffrent... now im not trying to go well you said this then this because i know you did not mean (nor did you really create) a double standard im simly just pointing out another way to look at things...

so now that i have gone super far off topic...

this wax looks interesting, im on the fence right now. Perhaps when there is another 15%off sale I will jump... buit we will see
 
dengood1 said:
Both are types of Carnuaba wax, both from different vendors.
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lol.i should have clarified.what brands are they?im assumeing SSII is pinnacles signature series 2.but Lusso i cant figure out.
 
94LT1 said:
lol.i should have clarified.what brands are they?im assumeing SSII is pinnacles signature series 2.but Lusso i cant figure out.
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lusso is the product line.. the actual wax is call oro... they also have a cleansing lotion and soap.. all the stuff can be found at detailers domain


I have tried luso oro and found it very similar to soveran:cheers:
 
CalgaryDetail said:
lusso is the product line.. the actual wax is call oro... they also have a cleansing lotion and soap.. all the stuff can be found at detailers domain


I have tried luso oro and found it very similar to soveran:cheers:
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Now does it last longer then souveran?
 
94LT1 said:
Now does it last longer then souveran?
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some have said it does, i didnt notive alot more.. maybe a week longer... i know others have said it lasts way longer... i dunno i have only used it twice so im no expert on it
 
ZoranC said:
One could argue that even $10-ish Collinite makes big dollar offerings overpriced as it is very possible majority of people would not be able to distinguish with 100% confidence $10 wax from $20,000 wax on their car.

IMHO what higher priced waxes offer is a "placebo effect", psychological component of feeling "special". Just like a high priced handbag is not neccessarily any better than cheaper one, or just like a high priced car is not neccessarily better performing than cheaper one, people buy them because it is an object of desire cleverly marketed to make people feel better about themselves when they acquire it.

Would I personally buy one? No. But I don't buy overpriced pieces of clothing or overpriced cars either. Would others do it? Sure. Whatever makes them happy, it is their money so it is their call what to blow it on, whether it be overpriced wax, or overpriced house, or overpriced clothing, or overpriced car.
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But the cheaper waxes don't have that cool wooden box. Im the MAN
 
ZoranC said:
Please let it be noted it is not Fuzion I was talking about when I was talking about big dollar offerings as I do not consider Fuzion's price a "big dollar". Yes, for regular income person that is not small money either, but in the world of enthusiasts price of under $3 per application (I am making emphasis on "per application" so we keep apples to apples in mind) is still considered "almost budget category" and there is a number of products in same price ballpark doing quite well. Is it for everybody? No, it is not for everybody. But it is not a "big dollar". You will recognize "big dollars" I had in mind when I was speaking on the spot when you see them, trust me.
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Sorry, for my misunderstanding. I wasn't trying to upset anyone.
 
Junebug said:
As a certified "bubba" I tend to get a little heavy handed applying wax, tightening bolts,etc. So I need extremely user friendly stuff. That said, I have tried Souveran - I liked it, doesn't last but a couple weeks, but it's easy to use. I've heard really great stuff about Lusso - mainly that it looks like Souveran but lasts longer. Question for Killer - can liquid Souveran be Polycharged? And Zymol and Swissvax are mediocre? Really? I only knew one guy that uses them - course he buys the $$$$ ones too. Interesting
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LS can be polycharged. 2 dose of ch2 per oz. Tks for the reminder. I have been wanting to try this out.
 
isn't polycharging only works with polymer based wax? I may be wrong but I think LS is nuba based so it would not work...

again, I may be wrong
 
Junebug said:
As a certified "bubba" I tend to get a little heavy handed applying wax, tightening bolts,etc. So I need extremely user friendly stuff. That said, I have tried Souveran - I liked it, doesn't last but a couple weeks, but it's easy to use. I've heard really great stuff about Lusso - mainly that it looks like Souveran but lasts longer. Question for Killer - can liquid Souveran be Polycharged? And Zymol and Swissvax are mediocre? Really? I only knew one guy that uses them - course he buys the $$$$ ones too. Interesting
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Yes, polycharger can be added to Liquid Souveran. I have a friend that loves this combo, as say it adds durability.

I think some, including Calgary, misunderstand or misinterpret my offering. The low end Zymol and Swisswax are somewhat normal at a much higher price than other better products. That said both companies offer some nice waxes but start at a price considerably more expensive that Fuzion. The new Ital and Destiny is are nice looking . These offer no free refill either. But what do you consider to be worth the extra price tag attached to these when they arent considerably better, and almost none could tell the difference in a blind testing. (not actually blind, but seen on after application and removal)
 
OK, am I going crazy or did ya'll quit selling Polycharger? I looked all over and found the mixing bottles but that was it.
 
Gary Sword said:
I know you get one free refil. At the current price of $175 with one free refil I'm not in a hurry to try it.
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But in the meantime you bought some other wax for the same price with no refills and posted pics on another forum.Go figure.
 
02CAMSS said:
But in the meantime you bought some other wax for the same price with no refills and posted pics on another forum.Go figure.
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maybe that's why he's in no hurry to try it:righton: lol
 
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