Newbie polishing questions.

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Hello everyone. I'm pretty new to auto detailing. After watching video after video of how to polish I'm left with a few simple questions I hope someone can help me with.

Is the porter cable 7424xp a good polisher choice for me as a beginner ?

What pads should I purchase? (Brand. Size. Color.)

What polishes or compounds are good but not too expensive.

And lastly , what exactly do I tape off? I see people taping badges and windows. What else ?

Thank you and sorry for the silly questions.
 
I'd go with the Griot's 6" over the PC. More power and lifetime warranty (I've had to use it, Griot's is great with handling it)

Get a 5" backing plate and purchase LC flat pads 5.5". Orange for compounding, and white for polishing. Look into Lake Country Hydrotech 4" red pads for applying wax/sealant

A good starting setup is Meguiars Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish. These are what I learned on. From there go to M105/M205 and also venture into DAT polishes like Menzerna.

Tape off items that can be affected by the polish like black matte plastic, chrome trim, etc.
 
I started with the pc last year. I've already outgrown it. It's slow.

I also started with meguiars compound and polish but later went with optimum II. It doesn't dust up like meguiars. I don't tape. Tried once. It's a pain. Again the optimum doesn't dust up as much.
 
That's a good package and very reasonable price. You won't need a different backing plate if you stick with the pads in the kit. But if you want to go to a different size pad, you'll want a smaller backing plate. Just be sure to select a backing plate made for a DA and not a rotary.
 
This is a GREAT POST....since I am in the same boat. I also bought the Porter Cable 7424XP. I already bought the 5 inch backing plate: i am now also trying to decide on pads and polish. There are so many options. From what I have read, Lake Country is by far the better pad. Now to choose the colors snd decide waffle or foam. I am guessing choosing the Right....compound,polish will be Very difficult as well.


I want to make the best choices.
 
I would have bought the GG6 instead of the PC7424 if I were to do it again.

Buy a 5" backing plate, LC 5.5" flat pads(3 orange,6 white and 2 black and 1 blue). Meguiars new pads get rave reviews and there is only 3 colors which simplifies selection.

For starters stick with Ultimate compound and Ultimate polish. They are very effective, inexpensive and can be found locally in a pinch.
Once you get the feel of these you can branch out.

Microfiber selection is another mind boggler, but that might need another post. Save some money for those.

Too bad Meguiars New MT300 hasn't shipped yet as they might be the new go-to DA once the ship has landed..maybe it's worth the wait??
 
I use to use the PC7424 XP and have delegated it to minor correction/polishing and waxing. I do have all backing plate sizes and pads for it. It was a great machine for me to learn on. I have moved up to the Flex 3401.

That being said, you can't go wrong with a PC or GG6". It would appear that the GG 6 seems to be the more popular choice. You can't go wrong with either.

But I would get the 5 or 5.5" Lake Country Flat Pads and at least a great compounding/polish combo. I like Menzerna FG400 and SF4500 (most like SF4000, I prefer SF4500). The Megs 105/205 is an awesome combo and the Blackfire, Wolfgang or XMT combos are great too.

The Pads are the Lake Country (or equivalent) Flat Pads. Orange for compounding, White for polishing and Black or Red for Sealant or wax. The backing plates (Lake Country) range from sizes 2 7/8 to 6" but I would go 5" MAX. You can go 6" but it would be more difficult to learn correcting technique. BTW, the backing plates that I mentioned are for either machine PC7424 XP, GG6 or the Megs DA.

If you do have time you can look at Mike Phillips How to use the PC7424 XP. It will be very similar to the GG6. Mike also has a couple of books which I would look into.

Most important....just have fun and be patient!! It will all come to you very quickly!!
 
I have both, the GG6 and the PC
Both are great machines but the GG6 is better as it's difficult to stop the pad from turning.
On the other hand the PC is more user friendly for a beginner.
One day you'll want both so for now I'd go with the PC, it gets the job done, maybe a little longer than the GG6 but now by much.
The GG6 vibrates more IMO compared to the PC

Either way you can't go wrong with either unit.
 
Good thread. Does anyone here use the CG "hexlogic" pads? I have them, and have liked their performance (haven't compounded yet, only AIO, wax/seal) but am considering switching to LC flat.
 
Good thread. Does anyone here use the CG "hexlogic" pads? I have them, and have liked their performance (haven't compounded yet, only AIO, wax/seal) but am considering switching to LC flat.

They are my preference, and have been going on two years now. They are manufactured by Buff And Shine, who offer them in a flat design.
 
Hello everyone. I'm pretty new to auto detailing. After watching video after video of how to polish I'm left with a few simple questions I hope someone can help me with.

Is the porter cable 7424xp a good polisher choice for me as a beginner ?

What pads should I purchase? (Brand. Size. Color.)

What polishes or compounds are good but not too expensive.

And lastly , what exactly do I tape off? I see people taping badges and windows. What else ?

Thank you and sorry for the silly questions.

Here is a really good starting point. http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...ne-teach-one-1935-ford-pickup-swirl-city.html
 
AG sells far more PC 7424XP's than any other polisher, and gets the fewest of them returned. I have a PC and I have never wanted or needed for more. As Mike Phillips states, there have been thousands upon thousands of cars polished with a PC. I have never felt like I needed more power. The PC has more than enough power to do the job.

The Pinnacle twins, Wolfgang twins, Blackfire twins, are all good and easy to use. Like said above, 5" backing plate with 5.5" pads are perfect. I like the Lake Country Hydrotech pads as well, or the flat pads, or the CCS, they are all good.
 
I'd go with the Griot's 6" over the PC. More power and lifetime warranty ...Get a 5" backing plate and purchase LC flat pads 5.5". Orange for compounding, and white for polishing. Look into Lake Country Hydrotech 4" red pads for applying wax/sealant

A good starting setup is Meguiars Ultimate Compound and Ultimate Polish. These are what I learned on. From there go to M105/M205 and also venture into DAT polishes like Menzerna.

Tape off items that can be affected by the polish like black matte plastic, chrome trim, etc.

:props:Well said, William. :props:


Another reason for the GG6 is (if you've got the right discount code) you can get it for 30% off at Advance Auto Parts (and get free shipping over $75 every day of the week). ;)

It's just a beast of a machine, never failing to get the job done, and will actually spin 6½" pads on most vehicles.

Buy a 5" backing plate, LC 5.5" flat pads(3 orange,6 white and 2 black and 1 blue). Meguiars new pads get rave reviews and there is only 3 colors which simplifies selection.

For starters stick with Ultimate compound and Ultimate polish. They are very effective, inexpensive and can be found locally in a pinch.
Once you get the feel of these you can branch out.

Ah hah.... sounds like something I'd have said. (Actually have said just that.)


OP: The reason he's suggesting using 5½" pads is that they are cheaper, spin up better, and work in tighter spaces/bigger curves than 6½" pads. You can't have too many pads. ;)

The reason for more white than anything else, is you can use white pads for both compounding and polishing. You can, (for instance) start with Ultimate Compound on a white pad. Then once all your compounding is done (and you have CLEAN pads) you may indeed be able to finish with Ultimate Polish on the same (type of cut) pad that you used for compounding.

That aside, I *WOULD NOT* buy anything less than a dozen pads. You simply cannot compound an entire vehicle with 1 or 2 pads. The "kits" seem like they offer you something great, and allow you to get 1 of each pad, but you'll ALWAYS need more than 1 pad when compounding and polishing. The only time 1 pad will work is when you're applying wax or sealant. In those instances you'd want a blue, red or gold one. (The gold one is REALLY soft though.)

I would not however suggest that you 'move on' at some point to Meguiar's 105 (as a weekend warrior). It will cut like crazy, and is a great compound for getting that job done, but it's a BEAR to work with. If you really need a lot of cut, better off going for M101 as it'll work 3 times as long as 105. For polishing though, 205 is something that everybody needs (with Ultimate Polish) as part of their arsenal.

OTOH, for a totally different type of product, (DAT versus SMAT) that will also cut through the swirls, and on hard paints will finish down (for many totally ready for your sealant/LSP) AND it'll work down literally forever without drying out..... is Menzerna FG400. :xyxthumbs:

Microfiber towels ya' say?
That's another thread altogether. :rolleyes: Might do a search (or ten) on those threads. It's sometimes easier to do a Google search with a +autogeek added to the subject though than it is to search using forum software. (Remembering that Google will search phrases, where the forum software searches 'words'.) There are dozens of good microfiber threads here (I'm in most of them). :laughing:
 
GG6, 5" DA backing plate, B&S 5.5" pads and/or megs DA 5" foam discs...
 
I started with a Wolfgang/Porter Cable kit....add a few more pads, MF towels and a pot of Collinite wax.....Great start!
 
AG sells far more PC 7424XP's than any other polisher, and gets the fewest of them returned. I have a PC and I have never wanted or needed for more. As Mike Phillips states, there have been thousands upon thousands of cars polished with a PC. I have never felt like I needed more power. The PC has more than enough power to do the job.

The Pinnacle twins, Wolfgang twins, Blackfire twins, are all good and easy to use. Like said above, 5" backing plate with 5.5" pads are perfect. I like the Lake Country Hydrotech pads as well, or the flat pads, or the CCS, they are all good.

I like the PC too. I don't break out the 3401 unless the paint is REALLY jacked up. Something charming about that little machine.
 
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