Newly CanCoated car - door scratched - what to do.

[stylo]

Hey guys, the wife has managed to put a light scratch mark on the door. The 2 layers of CanCoat is only a week old ..

What are my options ? Go through the cut/polish/finish of the whole door panel or just that small 2” x 2” spot and apply the two layers of CanCoat again ?

 

[Justin at Final Inspection]

Hey guys, the wife has managed to put a light scratch mark on the door. The 2 layers of CanCoat is only a week old ..

What are my options ? Go through the cut/polish/finish of the whole door panel or just that small 2” x 2” spot and apply the two layers of CanCoat again ?

I would just do that area and reapply.

 

[stylo]

Ok cool.

Just had a quick inspection and my few finger rubs has caused a few more scratches !!

Thought CanCoat would give it a bit more protection than that ... it’s been over a week. Should have cured already.

Maybe I didn’t put enough on there ?

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Just had a quick inspection and my few finger rubs has caused a few more scratches !!

Thought CanCoat would give it a bit more protection than that ... it’s been over a week. Should have cured already.

Maybe I didn’t put enough on there ?

It's not a force field, if you rub grit against your paint with your finger (by rubbing a dirty car) you're going to cause marring.

 

[stylo]

Argh ... thanks ..

I thought it was clean enough. Washed only a day ago, but noted for future.

 

[Desertnate]

It's not a force field, if you rub grit against your paint with your finger (by rubbing a dirty car) you're going to cause marring.

So true. I think people greatly over estimate the scratch resistance of coatings. The marketing of the products sure doesn't help.

CanCoat is a great product in many ways, but due to it being a "lite" coating I've seen it offers even less marring resistance than a traditional coating. Not that traditional coatings offer much either...

Argh ... thanks ..

I thought it was clean enough. Washed only a day ago, but noted for future.

Cleanliness doesn't have anything to do with it. If the scratch came from keys, luggage (i.e. purse or laptop bag), jewlery, fingernails, etc, it would happen no matter what is on the vehicle or how clean.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

Unfortunately, there is some reality to offset the hyperbole used in marketing car products. Sure, a real coating might give you some scratch protection, but in the end probably all it's going to do is give you a sacrificial surface that the marring will be in instead of the paint (and there's a lot of wishing and hoping in that). Mostly what you're trying to do is create a surface that will release the dirt easier so there is less chance of marring during washing...because it's that mechanical object-on-paint friction that scratches the paint...like what your wife did but on a smaller scale. I mean heck, some (clean) paints can be scratched by a microfiber towel.

Sorry to wreck your morning.

PS Desertnate beat me to these points, I see.

 

[stylo]

Thanks so much guys. Morning ruined already by wife and the scratch lol

So much to learn, especially with this being only my second car coated with it.

So should i use some masking tape to square off the section I’m going to work on with the random orbital to re-polish ?

 

[LSNAutoDetailingLSNAutoDetailing is verified member.]

I wouldn’t tape off, just blend it. Make sure your work isn’t to “get that darn scratch out.” That’s when people get into trouble because the focus becomes getting the scratches out while not paying attention to heat buildup.

Polish as you normally would, 2’x2’ sections 6 section passes. It’s easier to live with a small scratch that only you can see vs a burn in the cc.


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[stylo]

I should update to say a 'scratch' would be an exaggeration and it is more of a marring which could only be seen at certain angles ...

Which was then exacerbated by me using my stupid fingers to see if the initial marring would rub out, causing further fine swirls (due to there being I guess, some fine dust/dirt particles on the panel).

All of this in a small 2 inch by 2 inch section of the door panel .. so annoying !!!

SO ... I will be doing the cut/polish then finish with (Menzerna 400, 2400 and 3800) then wipe with Prep and reapply the CanCoat by blending it in that section I worked on. I will ensure I work on a larger section and not just focus on the scratch and inadvertently cause a burn in the clear coat.

Thanks everyone!

 

[Setec Astronomy]

If you can only see it from certain angles, I sure wouldn't start with FG400, or even the MC2400 (I can't keep up with the numbering changes, I don't even know what that was before), since that's just one step removed from Power Gloss (PG1000).

 

[stylo]

Gotcha ! I will start with the Polish (2400) as opposed to the Cut (400).

Will only use the Cut if necessary.

 

[Calendyr]

Ok cool.

Just had a quick inspection and my few finger rubs has caused a few more scratches !!

Thought CanCoat would give it a bit more protection than that ... it’s been over a week. Should have cured already.

Maybe I didn’t put enough on there ?

Cancoat is a sealant... it won't protect against scratches. Think of it as Gyeon's version of Reload. It will protect against UV, make the paint harder to get dirty and easier to clean but it won't provide any noticable scratch resistance.

 

[stylo]

Cancoat is a sealant... it won't protect against scratches. Think of it as Gyeon's version of Reload. It will protect against UV, make the paint harder to get dirty and easier to clean but it won't provide any noticable scratch resistance.

Ahhh absolutely ! CanCoat was really just the practice run with using the DA polisher for the first time and applying a SiO2 coating. I will just re-do the car with MOHS in 6-12 months.

Have to say I have been really happy with the self cleaning and gloss of CanCoat but you guys have pointed out the main flaw for me here being the lack of scratch resistance (which incidentally, it isn't advertised to provide).

 

[BudgetPlan1]

I'd call CanCoat more of a coating-lite product as opposed to a Reload-type 'maintenance product' which are now sealants? It's hard to keep up.

In any event, even Mohs isn't gonna be that much more scratch/mar resistant; bang a door against it and even the mightiest, diamond-infused, 10h coating is gone give way.

 

[stylo]

Don't tell me that ... I already have a package of MOHS ready to go lol.

I am sure it's definitely going to provide better scratch resistance than the CanCoat but at the same time, I am not expecting errant doors to be bouncing off the MOHS coating :laughing:

 

[The Guz]

Cancoat is a sealant... it won't protect against scratches. Think of it as Gyeon's version of Reload. It will protect against UV, make the paint harder to get dirty and easier to clean but it won't provide any noticable scratch resistance.

Unfortunately this is not the case. Budget correct me if I am wrong but didn’t you speak to a Gyeon rep and they mentioned that CanCoat has 30% SiO2.

Budget put it perfectly on CanCoat.

You must be thinking of Cure which would fall in the same category as Reload.

Ahhh absolutely ! CanCoat was really just the practice run with using the DA polisher for the first time and applying a SiO2 coating. I will just re-do the car with MOHS in 6-12 months.

Have to say I have been really happy with the self cleaning and gloss of CanCoat but you guys have pointed out the main flaw for me here being the lack of scratch resistance (which incidentally, it isn't advertised to provide).

Here’s the thing with coatings. Don’t buy too much in the hardness rating or even durability claims.

Coatings are not impervious to scratches. They help with wash induced marring. But even then that is pushing it.

Durability is going to vary depending on the environment it is exposed to and maintenance among other factors.

I'd call CanCoat more of a coating-lite product as opposed to a Reload-type 'maintenance product' which are now sealants? It's hard to keep up.

In any event, even Mohs isn't gonna be that much more scratch/mar resistant; bang a door against it and even the mightiest, diamond-infused, 10h coating is gone give way.

Perfectly said.

Don't tell me that ... I already have a package of MOHS ready to go lol.

I am sure it's definitely going to provide better scratch resistance than the CanCoat but at the same time, I am not expecting errant doors to be bouncing off the MOHS coating :laughing:

I posted up my experience on coating hardness up above.

Here is my take on both products. I will be posting up my thoughts on my coating experiences before the end of the year as I put my thoughts down on paper. Along with a supplemental write up on observations I’ve made with some of these various coatings in a separate test.

Saying that CanCoat has better hydrophobic properties compared to Mohs even if it doesn’t last as long in the long run. Mohs to me was rather blah other than the look it leaves on the surface.

If you want scratch resistance then paint protection film is what you want. That also has its limitations.

You may want to play with the combination of Mohs + CanCoat. Seems like a favorite amongst Gyeon users.

Gyeon Primer Polish definitely does add increased longevity.

 

[stylo]

All I am really after is to prevent/minimise swirls/scratches from washing - this is after all, where most cars get their swirls from ! I am not after ground breaking scratch resistance.

Now, I speak with from experience with my previous car which was professionally coated with Opticoat +.

It was totally swirl and scratch free from my home washing (2 bucket method etc) and I was happy with the coating for a good 2.5 years. It also escaped any dents and scratches in the time I owned it as I used to park as far away as possible from other cars when I used to take it to the shops LOL (most of us can relate to this I am sure).

After that, I started noticing some swirls especially on the rear bumper, where it gets the most dirt and clearly, I lacked care when washing when it was extremely dirty.

This is the reason that I am going to be applying a Quartz Coating (MOHS) to my new car (albeit not professionally), but the first step was CanCoat just to get a feel for the product.

I am expecting 2-3 coats of MOHS to achieve the same protection as the Opticoat+ but most likely not for the same longevity. I will be happy with 1.5-2 years out of it. MOHS and CanCoat and Cure is looking like the combo to go for

Also my cars are always garaged and rarely parked out in the sun ...

 

[TTQ B4U]

Hey guys, the wife has managed to put a light scratch mark on the door. The 2 layers of CanCoat is only a week old ..

What are my options ? Go through the cut/polish/finish of the whole door panel or just that small 2” x 2” spot and apply the two layers of CanCoat again ?

Not a big deal. Just polish down that area and re-coat the panel. It will blend just fine.

 

[TTQ B4U]

This is the reason that I am going to be applying a Quartz Coating (MOHS) to my new car (albeit not professionally), but the first step was CanCoat just to get a feel for the product.

Go with Syncro. 2-3 coats of Mohs then Skin = PERFECTION and a SUPER hydrophobic property. You'll love it. Mohs is super easy to apply too.