Non-abrassive Polishes and"cutting'?

[Beerwulf76]

I know of a couple of polishes to claim they remove swirls yet say they are non-abrassive, namely Klasse AIO and Duragloss 101.I have used both before and with each have been unsuccessful at removing swirls.Does the "cutting" come from the pad used?

What am I missing here? Feed back please

 

[Dugdug]

Does the "cutting" come from the pad used?

Both pad & polish. I believe you were using a LC white pad which has very little cut. It's for fine polishes and waxes. The polish you are using doesn't have a lot of cut either.

 

[tw33k2514]

Non abrasive AIOs are extremely pad driven. You can try a more aggressive pad, but I don't think you will see what you are looking for. Those types of products remove the lightest of swirls.

 

[Beerwulf76]

Non abrasive AIOs are extremely pad driven. You can try a more aggressive pad, but I don't think you will see what you are looking for. Those types of products remove the lightest of swirls.

Good to know,I've purchased some Optimum Poli-Seal and will test it out with white LC pads to see how it compares the others.I will switch to a more aggressive pad if that "doesn't cut it" pun intended.

Any advantages of using a flat pad versus a CCS pad for removing swirls?

 

[tw33k2514]

The main advantage of the flat pad is more surface area. This in turn equals more correction potential.

I also find the flat pads easier to work with because they don't have the annoying dimples to collect product in.

 

[embolism]

Good to know,I've purchased some Optimum Poli-Seal and will test it out with white LC pads to see how it compares the others.I will switch to a more aggressive pad if that "doesn't cut it" pun intended.

Any advantages of using a flat pad versus a CCS pad for removing swirls?

The description for KAIO says it takes out minor swirls but I tried this for my winter prep (white flat pad) and it didn't do anything on some light marring I had (on softer clear too).

Poliseal on the other hand did a great job on a recent panel I did with hard Audi clear. I used an orange pad though.

 

[Kaban]

From personal experience, a white LC pad offers VERY little cut even if used with a compound like M105 on a generally soft clearcoat. Anything harder than average, forget about it.

 

[Bates Detailing]

Mix and match my friend! Take a few panels and check it out. Panel 1) AIO and finishing pad , 2) AIO plus mid grade pad , 3) AIO plus aggressive pad (rarely worth it though, unless on fiberglass IMO - and even somewhat rare there). EVERY single surface, be it auto, bus, rv, or aircraft - I do a small area with the technique that will work best - the AIO that I use for a one step removes roughly 40 to 50 % of swirls with a white finishing pad on the cyclo - it may remove even 70 % with the makita and a black waffle pad - but holograms are more than likely to appear even with great technique. Id say, take an AIO, play with the combos, and market to what best fits your market.

 

[shoeless89]

Non abrasive AIOs are extremely pad driven. You can try a more aggressive pad, but I don't think you will see what you are looking for. Those types of products remove the lightest of swirls.

:iagree:

 

[Beerwulf76]

I've been doing a lot reading and research on here ,and I've realized the mistakes I made.I was using LC's 6.5' white CCS pads on the #4 PC setting,next time I would used a smaller orange pad on setting#5 or so.I've also purchased some Optimum Poli-Seal,with has micro abrasives.I will also be prepared to switch to a polish or compound with more "cut"
That you all for the responses and the insight.
What an incredible resource the AG community is!:xyxthumbs:

 

[embolism]

also try putting a mark on your backing plate so you can tell when it stops spinning.

ideally, you'd also move to 5.5 inch flat pads and a 5 inch backing plate

 

[Beerwulf76]

also try putting a mark on your backing plate so you can tell when it stops spinning.

ideally, you'd also move to 5.5 inch flat pads and a 5 inch backing plate

Yes 5.5" flat pads is what I decided to go with!Good call on the backing plate I had not considered that!
:xyxthumbs: