bambo2888 said:
well, based on your post with all of the quoted responses from this forums top respected detailers, it seems that the consensus is that the NXT is in fact, a cleaner wax. lol
OK, see, that right there is your problem. You obviously didn't read the whole post. Just incase you missed it the first time, let me show you again. This is from a highly respected detailer/moderator from Meguiar's. One of your top respected detailers/moderator even mentioned his name.
Mike Phillips said:
Murr1525 is correct, M21 and NXT are not cleaner/waxes.They should be used on a finish in excellent condition or after a pre-wax cleaner has been used. If you're working on a neglected finish and want a one-step product Meguiar's Cleaner/Wax or ColorX would be a better choice.
Mike Phillips said:
Does Tech Wax contain abrasives? Good question. The answer is No. Tech Wax contains no ingredients that will scratch the surface. NXT Tech Wax is non-abrasive.
If you have some NXT Tech Wax, try this,
* Pour a little dab out onto your car's clean finish.
* Rub some between two clean fingers... feel anything?
* Rub some between your finger and your finish... feel anything?
What you feel is a smooth, creamy liquid comparable to a hand lotion. NXT Tech Wax is non-abrasive, it will not scratch any car finish.
NXT is non-abrasive.
Remember, the most important thing is the results you get. Too many people focus on what's in the bottle? What I have noticed over the last 5-6 months since NXT Tech Wax has been available is that the some people have discovered that Tech Wax cannot be beat in the appearance category, so they attack it at ever other angle they can find, mostly the durability issue and the ingredients issue. Next time you're reading a thread/argument over NXT and any other product, pay close attention not to the topic, but to the players, and their tactics. Case in point, there was a regular on Autopia bashing NXT Tech Wax on durability and then it comes out that he hasn't even tried it!
What really matters is when you wipe off the wax and then get blown away by the results...
Now, this guy has years of Meguiar's behind him. Some people are bashing NXT and haven't even used it or done reseach or tests. They are just listening to false claims. So, as far as I am concerned, this "consensus" that you are pointing out is coming from false information. So, basically, what you are saying is that no matter what, you are going with what the majority say, even if they came to their conclusion through false pretenses?
bambo2888 said:
just calm down and don't take it personally that someone disagreed with you, in a professional manner at that. either way, no matter what your next post is, nxt still holds the reputation of being a cleaner. if its not a carnauba and it specifically says on the bottle "removes swirls", it is a cleaner, no matter what a rep from Megs tells you. They are clearly advertising the feature of cleaning abilities, therefore, mo matter how small the ability may be, it still has it. the fact that it even says this is enough for me and hopefully anyone else to not use nxt as a final coat over a glaze and/or a sealant.
The only thing that I am taking personally is the fact that you refuse to accept that I might be right in the fact that NXT can be successfully put over top of XMT Carnuba Glaze and it will have a better appearance than NXT alone and that it will not strip off all of the glaze even after I have done test and you haven't. So yes, I am taking that personal.
And if you don't think doing research to refute an argument isn't professional, rather than just agreeing or spitting out stuff that you have heard just to be arguing, then I'm not really sure what your idea of professional is.
Plus, you proved something in your own words. "nxt still holds the
reputation of being a cleaner." So, you base your decision off of reputation instead of doing research and tests? That is a bit risky if you ask me.
It doesn't remove swirls either. It hides them. If it doesn't contain any abrasives, then please tell me how it removes swirls? I would love to hear that. I don't care if it does say that it removes swirls on the bottle. It may be removing them from sight, but I guarantee it isn't removing them from the clear coat. That is just PURE marketing and judging by your reaction, it apparently works.
AND, furthermore, I can't believe that you are still saying that a Meg's rep is wrong. I'm not talking about a flunky that you call in India for customer service, I am talking about people that get their hands dirty with the products.
Once again, NXT can be successfully layered over a glaze or a sealant.