Oil prices are going down, but gas is going up...WTF???

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No one is ever going to do anything about it except complain. The more gas costs, the more tax the government gets off of it, the more money oil companies make, more influence big oil has in washington.

the only answer that will ever help the nation is get a president who can grow a pair and tell the overpricing oil companies to #### off and set a price that the USA will pay and thats that.

No one is going to turn down the USA's full oil business.... They might die of heart failure if that did happen.... Americans standing up and uniting for a common cause... I mean thats just unheard of!
 
Is anybody reading and paying attention? These prices have nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with demand and supply or value of currency. They have been manipulated.

I disagree , supply and demand and valuation of our currency do play a part, and yes so does manpulation. There is more than one absolute in this situation and all actually are working against us currently.
 
The Government finances these oil companies with our tax dollars. Bush, Chaney, Rice all have oil ties. What's not to understand about Republican greed.
 
the government gets "bribed" by those oil companies, and they will make any excuse there is just to raise those prices. It's simple, government is on commision...
I hate to say this, but the only use I see for republicans, is to sweep the floor in democrats office, using "made in China" grooms, since they wanna support those third world counties, instead of their own country.
 
There would be no reason to manipulate something that was not needed and demanded. Is there a huge run on horse manure ?? Over the past years we have consumed more fossil fuels and become much more greety over its use. We drive the biggest SUVS, we want the most horsepower, and this all uses fuel. When the gas crunch in the 70's came about, people united and pulled back consumption which showed that we would/could use less if pricing was increased, but not in modern society. (charge cards also play a part, as we receive instant gradification in purchasing the fuel and pay later or offset the immediate financial woe from 4.00 per gallon)

So we now have a commodity that is highly suseptible to gouging and manipulation as its supply is wanted (and thus demand) and we arent as keen on slowing consumption. Add into it that we dont want or wont allow drilling and further supplies from precious America and we are left to allow others to dictate its pricing.

Have you seen the huge industrial and residential boom in Saudi and others area's rich in black gold ?? They are reeping in from the additional costs. Until we place a lower demand on this, they can control the pricing and government is free to tax and control the supply as it see's fit. Again more than one reason for the current place we are in, not just one simple definition.
 
There would be no reason to manipulate something that was not needed and demanded. Is there a huge run on horse manure ?? Over the past years we have consumed more fossil fuels and become much more greety over its use. We drive the biggest SUVS, we want the most horsepower, and this all uses fuel. When the gas crunch in the 70's came about, people united and pulled back consumption which showed that we would/could use less if pricing was increased, but not in modern society. (charge cards also play a part, as we receive instant gradification in purchasing the fuel and pay later or offset the immediate financial woe from 4.00 per gallon)

So we now have a commodity that is highly suseptible to gouging and manipulation as its supply is wanted (and thus demand) and we arent as keen on slowing consumption. Add into it that we dont want or wont allow drilling and further supplies from precious America and we are left to allow others to dictate its pricing.

Have you seen the huge industrial and residential boom in Saudi and others area's rich in black gold ?? They are reeping in from the additional costs. Until we place a lower demand on this, they can control the pricing and government is free to tax and control the supply as it see's fit. Again more than one reason for the current place we are in, not just one simple definition.
Scott, how can you a lower demand, when automanufacturers don't want to improve fuel economy. Well, they do with hybrid technology, but then charge you premium price for that. I've seen an average 4 cylinder car like Honda Accord (I've taken a japanese, since domestic keep changing their models from time to time) hardly didn't improve any over in the last 15 years! What's up with that? That's the problem. And yet, almost everyone want to drive an SUV, if not the largest, something midsize, and those are bad gas-guzzlers. And speaking of small cars, with exception of a very few, they look very funny and they look like they designed for very poor people. Look at Yaris, it's ugly! Look ar Aveo - same thing! Even newer Focus looks uglier then a previous model. Nobody will wanna buy that. Believe me, My first car was a '95 Geo Metro. I though I was a clown, everyone were laughing!
And yet when government says fuel economy needs to be 35 MPG by 2020 on midsize sedans, they probably mean highway MPG on a 4 cylinder car.
NO! This figure needs to be on a V-6 3.5-4.0 engine models CITY MPG!!! And highway MPG should be in high 40's low 50's, without any hybrid technology for which they rip you off. And yes, they can do that, it's just a few people don't want it, as it will dramatically reduce oil consumption/their income.
 
thats the real complexity of the whole issue, there is no easy way to reduce consumption on a big enough basis that the word is heard loud and clear. Even the damage to the economy currently is not enough to force a change. The current price of gas reflects on every facet of our world and its pricing of consumer goods.

Cars are one small part of the equation, and the new CAFE standard of 35 miles per gallon will indeed cause a change to manufacturers and impliment alot more taxes to those that break it. (remember this is an average across a line) I too dont want a small car nor less power but all for more efficency. As a nation we currently like to defy recycling , can anyone assume we will unite to consume less fossil fuels ?? Maybe trash is the answer, its seems to be the only thing we have to much of and cannot get rid of quickly.

Somehow we need to find a fuel that is plentiful and cheap, and until now its not there. Until then we need to open our resources to pulling and drilling here locally as reasonably as one can from an environmental standpoint. Alaska is likely a starting point. (please no Greenpeace PM's, I dont like it either). I do feel as we likely near 5.00 per gallon we will see greater impact on society and reduction of middle class america. The answers are unclear and likely unknown, but this effects more than just what we drive or whats next, consider the coming generations.
 
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I agree prices have been inflated significantly. I remember reading a while ago that the oil companies are showing RECORD profits. As far as all the republican bashing (i'm neither republican or democratic, but one who chooses who he thinks will do best for the country) it seems we will have a democrat in office this coming term and we will see if prices will go down. I believe I also read that the democrats are pushing for lower prices where as the republicans seem to want to do nothing. Like mentioned, the republicans have oil ties (especially Bush...). So like I said theres really nothing we can do except wait and see unfortunately.
 
With all that in mind, I really don't want a V-6 for a daily driver. Once service contract exprires on BMW (April of 2010), I might even look up these new diesel Jetta's coming up this fall. My girlfriend (soon to be my wife) really like Jettas, but I don't see a point of getting in with gas engine, which does 21/29, when diesel will be doing mid 40's/mid 50's. That's very good for a daily driver. But again, sometimes you get such a good deal on another car, that even with a little thirstier fuel economy it's still worth getting...
Also though of a hybrid...wonder what it costs to replace that big battery, I'm sure more then $70 atl Auto Zone...

Again, will calculate it with a piece of paper to see how long it takes for newer technology to pay off...
 
you might wanna check the price of diesel fuel ... in our area its actually quite a bit more than regular gas at 4.50/gallon.
 
you might wanna check the price of diesel fuel ... in our area its actually quite a bit more than regular gas at 4.50/gallon.


Twice the distance for 70 cents more a gallon? Still sounds like a smart move.

3.89 / 21 miles = 0.185 per mile
4.59 / 45 miles = 0.102 per mile
 
you might wanna check the price of diesel fuel ... in our area its actually quite a bit more than regular gas at 4.50/gallon.
It varies from $4.99-$5.19... Regular is $4.29, that's at local 76. I only fill up at those stations, don't even bother Arco, or other crap.
 
Twice the distance for 70 cents more a gallon? Still sounds like a smart move.

3.89 / 21 miles = 0.185 per mile
4.59 / 45 miles = 0.102 per mile
diesel cars also cost a bit more at the dealership to start with. Anyway, we'll see.
 
I agree fully with killewheels and the hitchhiking idea. I drive to and from work and drive V8 pickups for work. just paid $36 for 8.5 gallons of regular in the accord. Also the gas prices are fueling the spike in bike sales.
 
I agree fully with killewheels and the hitchhiking idea. I drive to and from work and drive V8 pickups for work. just paid $36 for 8.5 gallons of regular in the accord. Also the gas prices are fueling the spike in bike sales.
To be honest I've thought of buying a used scooter (Vespa or something of the likes) to get to and from school. Either that or a dirt bike. Here in NV they don't care if you drive them on the roads (they did in GA were I used to live).
 
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