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I'm new to Auto Geek, but have a passion for cars and maintenance. I have a 08 VW R32, 99 BMW Roadster and a 11 BMW x5. I have always used Zaino Bros products but I'm going to move on and ordered a Flex and Wolfgang's three step to deal with some lite scratches and swirls. Excited to see how they turn out
 
welcome to Autogeek, those are some good choices you made. also consider ordering more pads to go with your new Flex. i highly recommend the LC Hybrid pads. one thing you can never have enough is pads and good microfiber towels
 
What would you recommend I do prior to using the Flex? All cars are clar barred and very well maintained. Just light scratches visible down sides of x5. Metallic grey. Same with vw which is electric blue.
 
What are you planning on using as a "wax" after you are done with the polishing, if you are moving on from Zaino?

You realize the Zaino "polishes" are really sealants, and that the Wolfgang polishes don't provide any protection?
 
I was thinking I would practice on the R32 first. It is in about the same condition as the x5. I ordered a starter kit from AG and I don't think it comes with LC pads. I will convert over after my first job. I am thinking I will also use up my Zaino products for polishing. They really do a nice job and have a good winter life here in Michigan.
 
That's exactly what i did a few years ago when i migrated away from Zaino. I had to use up all my leftover Z LSP's having spent so much on it but have been absolutely thrilled with Blackfire since!
 
I was thinking I would practice on the R32 first. It is in about the same condition as the x5. I ordered a starter kit from AG and I don't think it comes with LC pads. I will convert over after my first job. I am thinking I will also use up my Zaino products for polishing. They really do a nice job and have a good winter life here in Michigan.

agree... Zaino products are fantastic. I have moved on because of price; however, I still prefer their tire z16 protectant.

I moved to Blackfire and 22ple for the majority of my protection, however, OPT opti-seal does have a long life too!
 
This is what I'm starting with. In this light lots of lite scratches.
 
:welcome:to AGO! :cheers:

Great choice with the Flex, it'll serve you well for sure. :xyxthumbs:


I would agree with the post however that you invest in SEVERAL more pads. If you're only going to be doing your 3 vehicles (and considering they have completely different paint systems RE soft/hard etc.) you'll still need at least a dozen pads. Easier to have 18~24 than trying to work with only 6.

Normally I'd say 4 of the orange, white and blue, then something like 2 yellow, black and red. But that only applies to Lake Country pads other than the Hybrid models. Why? Because for some strange reason the 'normal' color/cut combo with all the other pads is different with the Hybrids.

For instance, yellow is always known as the heaviest cut foam pad you can get. That is with everything EXCEPT the Hybrid pads, where there yellow is a light polishing pad. More similar to what the blue is in the regular pads. Where the blue/cyan in hybrid is a cutting pad with more cut than the white pads. (Has less in all other forms of LC pads.) But hey... at least the white pads are still right there in the middle. :D Speaking of white pads, it really isn't a bad idea to have AT LEAST half a dozen of those puppies. You'll find that you will probably use those more than any other pads you have when it comes to different paint systems and removing swirls. They'll both remove swirls as well as work with finer polishes to finish down as well. (At least on harder paints that is.)

Either way, whatever pads you get, you'll want more cutting pads and less finishing pads. So say if you get two colors of cutting pad you'll want 4~6 of each. Simply put, when you're doing paint correction those pads will build (and hold) heat longer. You do not (especially with the 3401) want to try and do an entire vehicle with 2 pads. Heck, I'll use 2 pads for the HOOD! (With a GG6 or Rupes even.) Same thing for the roof. Good rule of thumb is 1 pad per panel. Not to say that you cannot pull a pad off and let it cool while you're working with another one. Just that you don't want to try and do the whole vehicle with 2 or 3 pads without pulling them and letting them cool (doing a rotation along the way).

Move to finishing pads (at least 2 colors of those as well) and you can get away less finishing pads because they don't build up as much heat as the cutting pads do. Not hard to do the entire hood with a single pad with a finishing pad. For that matter it's easy to do the entire vehicle with 2~3 just have to make sure they don't heat up. (Check for heat on the BACK of the pad, where the Velcro meets the backing plate.)
 
Took at bit of trial and error but found the right combination. Had scratches just not getting worked out with Wolfgang Swirl Remover. Tried different pads but no good. The went to Wolfgang Uber Compound with white then orange pad. Now like a mirror.
 
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