Old guy with somewhat of a new car

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Just joining AutoGeek after looking for a few days.

I just recently bought a used car from Hertz Rent to Buy program, I've never seen a one year old car with 22,500 miles on it, with so many scratches. The car seems to be in excellent mechanical shape, but the car wash they ran it through must have had wire brushes on it. (OK, I'm only sightly exaggerating).

Shortly after getting a look at the car, I started to try and see how many of the scratches would come out with a little polishing. Found a good deal on a Harbor Freight DA, also purchased some NuFinish scratch doctor and went to work... Well, my first try at things showed me that most of the scratches would indeed buff out, but clearly there were some RIDS too... Given the car drove so well, was at a good price, and I really needed a decent car, I wound up buying it. There are a few minor dings, that no amount of buffing will do anything about, but hey I knew there would be, and after I drive it for a year, I suspect there will be a few more...

So, anyway as I searched the internet for advice on removing scratches and/or what products work the best, I found myself looking at AutoGeekOnline quite frequently. After I did manage to get most of the scratches out, I started to get the idea that this car might actually look pretty darn good if I put some tender loving care and quality polish/sealer and such into it.

I almost was convinced that a bottle of Blackfire Wet Diamond was what I needed, given I really don't like putting too much effort into making a car look shiny and new. However I was disappointed when I learned you can't buy that stuff at any local stores.

Now I'm in my early 50s, polished and tried to salvage, or make the best out of many a rust bucket and also kept a few newer cars looking shiny over the years. Mostly all by hand, sometimes using what back in the day seemed like miracle in a can, AKA Dupont #7 rubbing compound. Had to give that up when clear coat finishes came along... then I found that NuFinish was pretty easy to use product and for the most part, made my newer clear coat cars look pretty good with minimal effort.

Fast forward to my slightly abused paint on a year old Chevy Cruze... well, I did wind up using some Maguires M01 by hand on some of my scratches, before I read you weren't supposed to use that stuff by hand. Even so, apparently all those years of working with Dupont #7 taught me enough to know that a little can go a long way. As it turns out, I don't think my brief dive into the improper use of Diminishing abrasives did any real harm and maybe actually did do some good. However after reading that I shouldn't be doing what I did with the M01, I figured I should do a bit more reading and figure out what modern products might be out there.

Back to the Blackfire stuff... I hate that you can't buy that stuff locally... But did learn that Duragloss has some products that might be just as easy and possibly just as durable and shiny as BlackFire... So I found my way down to the local auto parts store and got myself some DG 101, DG 111, DG 501, and even some DG 951. I also picked up some Maguires Ultimate Compound, ScratchX 2.0, and even some Swirl X at another local store. So, I'm now armed with enough polishes and sealers to do a dozen cars with... (maybe my wife's Cruze will also get some attention)

Now, for the moment, I have revived a previous love of polishing old scratchy auto surfaces, but long term my goal is to do as little as possible and still maintain a reasonably shiny car, well into the future. Maybe there's enough stress relief in it all to keep me doing it more then once every year , but hey I don't think I'm going to be one of those guys that adds a new layer of something magic on my car ever month, I've been there and done that, don't plan on totally reliving my youth.

Anyway, that's me and how I came to be here in a nutshell.
 
Just joining AutoGeek after looking for a few days.

Welcome to AGO! :welcome:




So, anyway as I searched the internet for advice on removing scratches and/or what products work the best, I found myself looking at AutoGeekOnline quite frequently.

Anyway, that's me and how I came to be here in a nutshell.


I think you'll find this to be one of the friendliest and most helpful forums in the forum world.

Welcome aboard!


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:welcome: old guy with new car!!! Have fun with your project, ask questions and share the results!!....... and if you don't mind saying where you are you may even get an AGO pro to offer to come and personally give you a hand ;)
 
Welcome to AG, and don't feel bad about knowing how to polish a car by hand, many have never had to do that.
You are well on your way to learning more now that you are here, but I must warn you, this stuff is addictive. Before long, you will be looking into a polisher, then into other more exciting things, but that is the journey.

And don't forget the interior.

HUMP
 
Welcome to autogeek...you have a bright relaxing journey ahead of you so sit back and enjoy
 
Thanks everyone for the kind welcomes...

I'm from southeastern Michigan (USA), about a hour drive west of the motor city.

I'm intimately familiar with hand polishing, I just didn't know you weren't supposed use Maguires M01 Mirror Glaze by hand. Supposedly, the Diminishing Abrasives won't diminish quickly enough without the speed/heat generated by power tools. Well, I can tell you that it didn't really seem to be much of a problem for me. I was working in small areas, checked to see how things were going frequently and such, so from my experience, working this stuff by hand really wasn't a problem. It was merely the fact that I really didn't read the package well and/or didn't fully understand what Maguires had intended for this type of product that caught me off guard. After realizing I wasn't using the product as they intended, then learning that there are much more 'modern' products out there, that I came to the conclusion that I should probably do more research into modern polishes before I got too far into trying to make my $15,000 car look like a million dollar one. :)

Since using that M01 and reading more about it, I came to believe that I don't like the idea of diminishing abrasives anyway, too much 'unknown' for me in that technology. I'd rather work with a product that's got a consistent level of abrasiveness, so for now I think I've got that in the Ultimate Compound, Scratch X 2.0, and the Swirl X.

Generally speaking, I prefer to work by hand when trying to get rid of the deeper scratches, I feel more secure, less likely to burn through the clear coat. One of my biggest issues right now, is trying to decide which of the RIDS I should try and fix ( if any ), and which ones I should just leave be.

The DA I bought is nice for larger areas, but a lot of my scratches are in the area just above the doors, right on the edges of the cant rails. Being that many of the worst scratches are right on the sharp bend in this panel, I really am worried about overdoing it and going all the way through the clear coat. So, from my perspective, using a power tool on this area is a bit risky.

At this point, I'm trying to proceed cautiously because I really have gotten out 95%of the problems, the remaining 5% are going to be tricky to do without causing more damage. Since I'm not trying to do this as a way to make money, I can take all the time need, if it weren't for my general preference for instant gratification. :laughing:

I'll try to get some photos as soon as I figure out the best way to do that.
 
Not sure how well this will work, but here's some photos of this car I recently purchased. I've found it can be a bit hard to get good photos of some problems that are quite obvious to the naked eye, but hopefully these will give you some idea of what I've been dealing with.
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Here's a couple more closeups of some of the scratches on the cant rails. I've only put a modest amount of effort into trying to get rid of these so far. There are probably six spots similar to these on each side of the car. I was told these were most likely caused by a car wash, however I really don't know for sure, but I guess that theory sounds plausible.

I've put a modest amount of effort into fixing some of these already, but really am concerned that they might be too deep to fix with polish. When the car is clean they can be really hard to see, when a little dust gets in the scratches they show up a bit more. To be honest, they are mostly an annoyance to me, also just something that I feel like I could probably fix if I put some further effort into it. I don't really ever expect this car to be a show car, I just want it to look as good as I can get it with polish alone.
 
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