Onr not taking dirt off or is it road film that it just can’t get off?

That Purple Power Vehicle and Boat wash takes forever to rinse off. You think it is rinsed off until you realize that you can still see the rainbow effect at the edges of the sheeting water from the soap still being there.
 
Don't use 6oz in 1 gallon as the bottle says. Dilute it more. I am currently doing 2 oz in 2 gallons. No residues. And no traffic film after a few weeks of washing.

If you want it to foam at this dilution, we'll that's not happening lol. You'll need the 6 ounces :D
 
Bgates222 said:
I used onr the way it says on the bottle but when I dry the panel my white drying towel is full of dirt? Is this road film? Do I need to use a soap that takes off toad grime every time and will that in turn take off my bead maker so that I need to reapply that in full every time
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Have you tried using ONR as a pre-spray before wiping the panel? Many of us spray a rinseless solution onto the panel first, let it dwell a minute, and then wipe the panel. I feel that it loosens the dirt and also helps to prevent scratches during the wash process.

I usually mix the pre-spray in the bottle to be slightly more concentrated than the rinseless solution I have in the bucket. I've always done it this way regardless of the rinseless product I'm using.
 
Yes sir that’s what I did this time cause the car was extra grimy,


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PaulMys said:
I believe this is your answer.

"Extra Grimy" needs a dedicated wash IMO.[/

Isn’t the idea of the waterless wash that’s you should be able to use it regardless ? Or would you only use it with slight dirt and stuff like pollen? Because the mobile detailers in my area all use waterless regardless, even tho they are polishing afterwards so maybe it doesn’t matter


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Bgates222 said:
PaulMys said:
I believe this is your answer.

"Extra Grimy" needs a dedicated wash IMO.[/

Isn’t the idea of the waterless wash that’s you should be able to use it regardless ? Or would you only use it with slight dirt and stuff like pollen? Because the mobile detailers in my area all use waterless regardless, even tho they are polishing afterwards so maybe it doesn’t matter


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You mean "rinseless" correct?

And no, you cannot use it "regardless". If the vehicle is too dirty, you are just asking for CC damage.
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Yes sorry rinse less, ok well then maybe that is my issue I guess I’ll find out as it’s rained again here in Seattle oops I mean New York


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I don’t know if getting into detailing was a blessing or. A curse lol sometimes I feel like ignorance was bliss all these years lol


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Bgates222 said:
Yes sorry rinse less, ok well then maybe that is my issue I guess I’ll find out as it’s rained again here in Seattle oops I mean New York


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Lol. I am on LI. I know what you mean....

Please keep us informed, fellow statesman. :)
 
My towels will do that same thing with ONR on our cars for rinseless.

Like someone else said you are essentially applying ONR to the vehicle then wiping off the dirt encapsulated water with your drying towel. So it makes sense to have dirt on it. Cause you are removing it

This is a forum of super cautious over the top wash procedures. But you are using it as it is intended. It is OK to wash a dirty car with ONR. If you need a refresher look for some of Yvans videos of some dirty cars. Lots of other people post videos of cleaning cars that are already clean and go on about snow foams pre washes 3 or more buckets etc.


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If you want the car to actually be clean
You need to Prewash with an acid based product followed by a alkaline based APC then your ONR
 
My boy Joey Love I. Hawaii does ONR I believe and then acid(IGL Delete) and it still comes off black like that
 
I see what your saying but I’m wiping it with the drying towel only after I’ve already taken the dirt off with the onr, like I can take a towel with onr wipe the panel and have it full of dirt then take another clean mf wipe the same panel and it be totally clean, then spray some beadmaker on the same panel wipe with my drying towel and the towel be black


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Reading this got me thinking a bit. The whole "Applying ONR" as Yvan has said. Is ONR the only rinseless product that you're "applying " the product vs wiping it off? Sorry if that reads funny, not sure I worded it well. That being said I've never heard a phrase like "applying ONR" when people talk about other RW products. Thoughts?

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bfielder32087 said:
Reading this got me thinking a bit. The whole "Applying ONR" as Yvan has said. Is ONR the only rinseless product that you're "applying " the product vs wiping it off? Sorry if that reads funny, not sure I worded it well. That being said I've never heard a phrase like "applying ONR" when people talk about other RW products. Thoughts?

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Yeah sorry I’m just dipping the towels in the onr solution bucket and wiping the panel then applying beadmaker and drying


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Bgates222 said:
Yeah sorry I’m just dipping the towels in the onr solution bucket and wiping the panel then applying beadmaker and drying


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If I understand what you’re saying, you are using the first towel that is soaked with ONR to wipe the dirty panel, after that, the towel has picked up some of the dirt, and there is still ONR on the panel. Then you spray BeadMaker on the wet panel as a drying aid/protective layer and then wipe with a drying towel. And it is the second towel that is dirty.

Is that accurate? If it is, then it makes sense that the drying towel is dirty. The first towel is not going to pick up all the dirt on the panel. The ONR that is left on the panel has encapsulated the dirt still remaining on the panel and the second towel is going to pick up the ONR/dirt, so the towel is going to look dirty.

I thought you were applying BM on a panel where the ONR was applied and dried already.
 
I think this entire thread comes down to this:

Rinseless washes are great. I use them just about all summer after my full correction and LSP application, which is key to the success of the RW's.

After you apply a good LSP, a RW will keep it clean after a short drive in the rain, or minor dust/dirt.

Anything more than that, and I believe you are asking more of a RW than it is designed for.

For example, I would never use a RW to deep clean my paint before I intended to machine polish. The pads (aka the drying towels in the OP's post) would be full of dirt afterward.

I use all rinseless wash's as an "in-between", and I really do love the speed and convenience.

But, they are what they are.
 
Bgates222 said:
I see what your saying but I’m wiping it with the drying towel only after I’ve already taken the dirt off with the onr, like I can take a towel with onr wipe the panel and have it full of dirt then take another clean mf wipe the same panel and it be totally clean, then spray some beadmaker on the same panel wipe with my drying towel and the towel be black


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You may have some dirt left that ONR did not wash off. And the carrier product in BM desolves it. So IMO you need to be doing a bucket wash or even a decon wash. As soon as you notice a little dirt when you apply the BM next time it's followed wash should be a bucket wash. Or if really anal about it do a panel and if the BM does the same setup a bucket wash.

Optimum has showed some combos to use with ONR. To get an extra cleaning ability from it. Think it's Optimum Power Clean they use in combo with ONR. Or if you even can be pretreat with a diluted OPC and ONR solution before the rinseless wash.

Have not to this date done a rinseless wash LOL. So just what I have been noticed on the forum and YT. Have tested waterless wash on a hood and door jambs with Carpro EcH2O. It has a great cleaning ability from the little I have used it. Don't know how it is vs ONR. But would think that you have differences between different rinseless wash and waterless washes as between the car soaps. Also the wash media you are useing when you rinseless wash and waterless washes have an impact on the cleaning ability just like in bucket washes. Maybe try another rinseless wash and see if it's the cleaning ability from ONR that's lacking?

/ Tony
 
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