ONR or ONR Wash and WAX for maintenance Program?

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I've recently started a new maintenance program. I'll be going out mobile and doing rinseless washing to maintain a few of my clients vehicles.

My clients will have the option of once a month, twice a month or weekly.

Should I just stick to ONR or should I switch to ONR wash and wax?

I'll be using the multi MF towel method in one bucket (discarding spent towels) and a separate bucket designated for wheel mf's.

This way, I only need one paint bucket and one wheels bucket and two discard buckets for used mf's.

I'm also bringing along tons of extra mf's and a 7 gallon container of pre mixed onr and water.
 
ONR Wash and Wax, hands down over the simple ONR. Didn't think it was going to make that much of a difference but it did. The Gary Dean technique is very smart.

I routinely do a final wipedown inspection with V07 and find that ONRWW leaves less for me to "buff off".
 
I'll second the ONRWW...but mostly because it lets you tell your customer you're applying patented UV protection to their vehicle as part of your maintenance wash. Or were you going to do a spray wax afterward anyway?
 
Setec Astronomy said:
I'll second the ONRWW...but mostly because it lets you tell your customer you're applying patented UV protection to their vehicle as part of your maintenance wash. Or were you going to do a spray wax afterward anyway?
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I was thinking about a spray wax, but I think the wash and wax will be much simpler and better for marketing. Thanks for the input, sounds like the wash and wax is good stuff.
 
statusdetailing said:
I was thinking about a spray wax, but I think the wash and wax will be much simpler and better for marketing. Thanks for the input, sounds like the wash and wax is good stuff.
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I actually haven't used mine that much. You might think about using the DG rinseless which has Aquawax in it...the price point is a bit better. But I think for what you are doing the "patented UV protection!" angle of the ONRWW is great for marketing.
 
ThomasonCarCare said:
ONR and V7. It will be the quickest and will look great afterwards
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I think the ONR wash and wax will save me a step. I'm gonna try to be in and out in around 20 minutes.

I'd be interested in trying the V7 on my "express" detail that I do at my shop. Looks like a good product.
 
I use Chemical Guys Ecopod for my maintenance program along with V7 and my customers love it. Once you get the shine the V7 keeps it looking good for a while. You will not be dissapointed.
 
statusdetailing said:
I've recently started a new maintenance program. I'll be going out mobile and doing rinseless washing to maintain a few of my clients vehicles.

My clients will have the option of once a month, twice a month or weekly.

Should I just stick to ONR or should I switch to ONR wash and wax?

I'll be using the multi MF towel method in one bucket (discarding spent towels) and a separate bucket designated for wheel mf's.

This way, I only need one paint bucket and one wheels bucket and two discard buckets for used mf's.

I'm also bringing along tons of extra mf's and a 7 gallon container of pre mixed onr and water.
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Do u also include an inside wipe down?
 
ThomasonCarCare said:
I use Chemical Guys Ecopod for my maintenance program along with V7 and my customers love it. Once you get the shine the V7 keeps it looking good for a while. You will not be dissapointed.
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I'd probably be going through a ton of product with the CG waterless wash, right?

Is it cost effective?

I like to mix onr a little strong, but it can technically be diluted 1 ounce to 2 gallons.
 
I've never used it, so this could be very very wrong, but if the wax is anything like the shampoo wash and wax, I wouldn't really call it a true wax layer, but more gloss enhancer and it will only last 2 days... I'd go for ONR and V7
 
statusdetailing said:
I'd probably be going through a ton of product with the CG waterless wash, right?

Is it cost effective?

I like to mix onr a little strong, but it can technically be diluted 1 ounce to 2 gallons.
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It can be diluted 4:1 so it seems like you use a lot, but all you have to do is mist the surface and wipe it off. I have the ecopod and it has a 5 gallon tank. I have washed five cars with it and I have only used about 1.5 gallons of it. Also, it has waxes and claybar-like materials in it so you don't really need to follow it up. I only use V7 because the customers that want the maintenance are the ones that pay for a full detail. So, if I make them happy, they keep coming back.
 
If someone is paying you and you're advertising wash and wax, it should be some sort of dedicated LSP whether its a spray sealant, OCW, paste wax, or anything!
 
I Agree with @anoymousuer I feel if you are selling a wash and wax you need two products. Consumer do not know car products and may feel the wax in the car wash solution is only marketing fluff.

If you are doing this for a profit cost saving is very import as you will be using a lot of product.

I would use ONR (great product) which is cheaper than ONRWW. I would also use Megs D156 a great easy to use in the sun or shade spray wax. It is also about $7-8 a gallon cheaper than CG V7 (also a good product)
 
I agree. I use the V7 for my maintenance routine for customers that purchased a wax or sealant job. For everything else I just use the Waterless wash.
 
I'd just go with wash and wax, a little added protection is always a good thing!

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If youre doing a program that varies from weekly, twice a month or monthly, as a customer if im paying for a wash n wax i would want something like optimum spray wax on my car. For a weekly maintained car ONRWW could be fine, but what if someone doesnt have any wax/sealant protection or its towards the end of its cycle and they want a wash n wax? I use ONRWW occasionally (mostly dedicate it to periodic winter use when i want to get a little more wax on my car when applying wax in cold temps is not possible).

I'm sure ONRWW doesnt have remotely enough wax to sell to what a customer would expect from hearing wash and wax (more for a weekly reapplication), if its not explained to the customer the difference between paying for ONRWW and a typical wash n wax with at least a spray wax, or if youre charging a similar price to a typical wash n wax, I would find that a little shady. That being said I would stick with ONR and get a gallon of optimum Spray Wax..and as a business stand point it wouldnt add much time at all to the wash as u can apply it right after you do the rinseless (while the car is wet) or quickly after the car is dried..side note 20 minutes sounds awfully fast to complete a car if only one person is working on it.
 
To me marketing a wash and wax product as uv protection in any manner is sort of misleading. The customer may think they are getting a good wax when they are getting wax for the next few days or the next rain.

I would use a good cheap spray wax afterwards for better protection and it won't cost a lot extra, plus your customers will be more satisfied
 
Or market them seperately like wash n wax or a wash and spray wax and give the details and benefits of both with the wash n wax being a bit less costly and the wash and spray wax costing more but getting more
 
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