ONR presoak sprayer

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For a very dirty car should I pre soak the paint first before using Z7 and a foam gun or 2 bucket method? I was thinking that a chemical sprayer with ONR would be a good pre soak treatment, anybody use this?
 
The Onr in chemical sprayer method is how patrick from exceldetail does it if I remember correctly.
 
I have been using a presoak sprayer and it did not seem to make any difference for me. It still is peace of mind.
 
I do a presoak with ONR only because it makes sense ,if ONR is suppose to "encapsulate" dirt ,this method will do so,as the result ,when I do the actual washing with the sponge and ONR mix, the dirt should already be in that "encapsulated condition "to be removed.:cheers:
 
Bunky said:
I have been using a presoak sprayer and it did not seem to make any difference for me. It still is peace of mind.
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:iagree:If your ride is well waxed the ONR spray will just run off, especially the side panels that get most of the road dirt and sludge. Just wash from the top down with the 2 bucket method and everthing should be good.
 
Rsurfer said:
:iagree:If your ride is well waxed the ONR spray will just run off, especially the side panels that get most of the road dirt and sludge. Just wash from the top down with the 2 bucket method and everthing should be good.
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Exactly. It never seems to stick to the paint especially on the sides.
 
Rsurfer said:
:iagree:If your ride is well waxed the ONR spray will just run off, especially the side panels that get most of the road dirt and sludge. Just wash from the top down with the 2 bucket method and everthing should be good.
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:iagree: :whs:
 
Rsurfer said:
:iagree:If your ride is well waxed the ONR spray will just run off, especially the side panels that get most of the road dirt and sludge. Just wash from the top down with the 2 bucket method and everthing should be good.
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I wax my car and the onr doesn't run off. It kind of sticks to paint in little tiny bubble. Does that with ever car I tried it on that I know has wax on it.
 
The whole concept allows the water/NRWS to help soften the debris allowing for easier, safer, more thorough removal. Less attrition is best.
Not sure if any of you have noticed what happens to built up debris or dust after a light rain? Instant encapsulation. Add NRWS to the mix, and its instant encapsulation, with lubricating factors. It been a proven NRWS enhancement for many, many detailers I know of......
 
I always spritz the panel with a spray bottle filled with onr at qd strength at let it soak while I rinse the mitt and load it with onr. Not sure if it helps much with the wash but it does help with peace of mind. Mine also does not run off the car if it rained at all that week, it just sticks to the dirt.
 
lgtspecb said:
I always spritz the panel with a spray bottle filled with onr at qd strength at let it soak while I rinse the mitt and load it with onr. Not sure if it helps much with the wash but it does help with peace of mind. Mine also does not run off the car if it rained at all that week, it just sticks to the dirt.
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I was referring to the side panels as far as run off. If you spray enough ONR qd, it will run off. If you give it just a light spray it will probably stick to the paint. When using ONR as QD I give the side panels a light misting and then come back a few minutes later and give it another spray. This second spray tends to get the first misting to run down the panel. Sort of a self rinsing action.
 
lgtspecb said:
I always spritz the panel with a spray bottle filled with onr at qd strength at let it soak while I rinse the mitt and load it with onr. Not sure if it helps much with the wash but it does help with peace of mind. Mine also does not run off the car if it rained at all that week, it just sticks to the dirt.
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I also pre-soak with ONR but I cannot tell if it really makes any difference. The dirt never seems to just slide away. On a waxed vehicles, ONR just seems to sheet off very quickly. On dirtier vehicles, it never seems to do much in an visually obvious manner/ I assume there is just a chance it loosens it enough to minimize marring or swirls.
 
lgtspecb said:
I always spritz the panel with a spray bottle filled with onr at qd strength at let it soak while I rinse the mitt and load it with onr. Not sure if it helps much with the wash but it does help with peace of mind. Mine also does not run off the car if it rained at all that week, it just sticks to the dirt.
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This is how I do it when I wash with onr (dp 4 in 1 rinseless wah and shine). Spray 2-3 or more squirts and it starts running down the door panel with some of the dirt and grit. I just let it sit and soak until I come around with the mitt and onr wash.
 
Its more for peace of mind, coverage, and ensuring you have added insurance if your initial wiping doesn't lubricate enough.
 
dsms said:
For a very dirty car should I pre soak the paint
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For what it's worth, my car got really dirty this winter and went 3 months without a wash. So I experimented newb style:

I filled my Gilmour foam gun with Megs Supersoap [foams well] and 50% water.
Sprayed on just enough foam to cover the whole car, not to blast off the crud.
In the mean time my AG Boars brush was soaking in ONR.
After the foam had worked for about 5 minutes, I washed it off with the ONR solution and brush to rinse. (2 bucket method + grit guard)

I did a second pass with the ONR and 2 waffle weaves. to dry.

Used virtually NO pressure to get the baked on crud off. Only took about 20 minutes, used very little water.

Just sharing an experiment on a 22 year old daily driver.
Reversing the order of using the products, seemed to help in not having to apply pressure against the paint.
When I was done the NXT, M26 was still beading.


*Foam adhered well to surface contaminants in spite of underlying wax.
 
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