Opti-Coat 2.0, or CQuartz??

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I'm going to buy one of these products and try it out on my own car. If I like it...I'm going to add it to my services for my customers.

So, the questions are...which one should I get? What do you guys normally charge to apply this for a customer? I was thinking anywhere from $100-$150 being that they last a LONG time.
 
Kristopher1129 said:
I'm going to buy one of these products and try it out on my own car. If I like it...I'm going to add it to my services for my customers.

So, the questions are...which one should I get? What do you guys normally charge to apply this for a customer? I was thinking anywhere from $100-$150 being that they last a LONG time.
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How much are you charging for paint sealants? How long do you advertise them to last? How do you plan to market either CQuartz or Opti-Coat? Are you only charging for application since this is available to the general public?
 
I would get both because each plays to different tastes. Opticoat is not as smooth or glossy looking as Cquartz but it lasts longer so it would be more suitable fit that daily beater or rental car or something that will be neglected for the most part. In other words opticoat is more utilitarian.

Cquartz would be more practical for people that want a more smooth and shiny car look and who is more apt to want a glass like look and feel. I know I would be the type who wouldn't sacrifice that smooth glossy type look.

Most users probably wouldn't see the difference between the two. I would.
 
rwright said:
How much are you charging for paint sealants? How long do you advertise them to last? How do you plan to market either CQuartz or Opti-Coat? Are you only charging for application since this is available to the general public?
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I only charge an additional $39 for paint sealant. Sealant typically only lasts a year at the very most. And that very much depends on the weather, and what is done to the vehicle within that year.

But if opti-coat and CQuartz work as advertised...then I would imagine it would be much more.

Marketing, I have no idea yet. It really depends on which one I use, how it looks, ease of application, and if it really works as advertised. I mean CQuartz claims to last 2 years.

I don't understand your last question. I'm charging for the application because I run a detailing business, ha. Obviously people may very well want this as an add on service to their package. Most detailing products are available to the public...that doesn't change the fact that they pay me.
 
Although they're both coatings, they're completely different products. I recommend getting both and experimenting to see what suits you better.

They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but I wouldn't really say CQuartz looks better than Opti Coat 2.0. I was very impressed by the look that each product gave. Keep in mind that each product should be applied over a defect-free finish, and neither product is oily like a typical wax is. That being said, I did notice increased depth/clarity with both products.
 
silverfox said:
I would get both because each plays to different tastes. Opticoat is not as smooth or glossy looking as Cquartz but it lasts longer so it would be more suitable fit that daily beater or rental car or something that will be neglected for the most part. In other words opticoat is more utilitarian.

Cquartz would be more practical for people that want a more smooth and shiny car look and who is more apt to want a glass like look and feel. I know I would be the type who wouldn't sacrifice that smooth glossy type look.

Most users probably wouldn't see the difference between the two. I would.
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I actually was planning on that. I was more or less looking to see if people had a preference. I definitely would like to try both before offering it to my customers.

I actually had that feeling when I read through the descriptions. I've also seen some write ups on these products. I was under the same impression that Opti-coat would be good for daily drivers, and CQuartz maybe for more high end vehicles.

How many vehicles does 30ml actually do? Doesn't seem like very much. Which is another big reason I feel like I have to charge quite a bit for this service.
 
Kristopher1129 said:
I actually was planning on that. I was more or less looking to see if people had a preference. I definitely would like to try both before offering it to my customers.

I actually had that feeling when I read through the descriptions. I've also seen some write ups on these products. I was under the same impression that Opti-coat would be good for daily drivers, and CQuartz maybe for more high end vehicles.

How many vehicles does 30ml actually do? Doesn't seem like very much. Which is another big reason I feel like I have to charge quite a bit for this service.
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I used around 10ml on my entire Tacoma Double Cab Long Bed. That's doing every painted area, all windows, wheels, trim, etc.

For Opti Coat, I used around 3cc (1 syringe comes with 20cc), covering an entire 2011 Camry SE.
 
silverfox said:
I would get both because each plays to different tastes. Opticoat is not as smooth or glossy looking as Cquartz but it lasts longer so it would be more suitable fit that daily beater or rental car or something that will be neglected for the most part. In other words opticoat is more utilitarian.

Cquartz would be more practical for people that want a more smooth and shiny car look and who is more apt to want a glass like look and feel. I know I would be the type who wouldn't sacrifice that smooth glossy type look.

Most users probably wouldn't see the difference between the two. I would.
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[email protected] said:
Although they're both coatings, they're completely different products. I recommend getting both and experimenting to see what suits you better.

They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but I wouldn't really say CQuartz looks better than Opti Coat 2.0. I was very impressed by the look that each product gave. Keep in mind that each product should be applied over a defect-free finish, and neither product is oily like a typical wax is. That being said, I did notice increased depth/clarity with both products.
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Yes, that much is understood. I was planning on having either CQuartz, or Opti-Coat included into my Platinum Package (which includes a full paint correction). Or was going to offer it to customers that pay for a full paint correction as an add on service.

My main intention was to add it to my Platinum Package to aid as a selling point. If customers know their paint will be protected for up to two years...that really helps draw people in.
 
[email protected] said:
I used around 10ml on my entire Tacoma Double Cab Long Bed. That's doing every painted area, all windows, wheels, trim, etc.

For Opti Coat, I used around 3cc (1 syringe comes with 20cc), covering an entire 2011 Camry SE.
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Oh alright. So this stuff must spread quite a bit then. That's good to know! I figured that would be the case since they sell it in such small amounts. Thanks for the info, I appreciate it!
 
Deep Gloss Auto Salon said:
What gave you that impression?




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I'm really not sure. Maybe it's the names of the products, or the descriptions. When I read both descriptions...I just felt like CQuartz leaves a harder more solid look and shine. For some reason I think Opti-coat may be a little softer.

Who knows, it's just how I felt about it. I haven't used either product yet...so it's not like a I have a solid answer for that.
 
Kristopher1129 said:
I'm really not sure. Maybe it's the names of the products, or the descriptions. When I read both descriptions...I just felt like CQuartz leaves a harder more solid look and shine. For some reason I think Opti-coat may be a little softer.

Who knows, it's just how I felt about it. I haven't used either product yet...so it's not like a I have a solid answer for that.
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I have not use CQ but I have used OC on my personal as well as two customers’ exotics.



If I may suggest, please do not prejudice yourself before using OC as I have been very pleased with it thus far!
 
Kris, If you go with Opti-Coat consider picking up the Pro version as it wont take as long to flash off making the process faster for you.
 
Hi Kristopher,
I was thinking the same thing, which to get... I got both, and have been trying to find the time to get them applied. My gf has a black Sonata and I have a black Grand Prix, I was going to apply CQuartz on hers and Opti-coat on mine and go from there...

I started the prep on her car yesterday by washing and claying it, then polishing all the little scratches out with the Flex 3401 and a maroon LC Hydro pad and Menzerna 106, and a mineral spirits wipe down to remove the oils. I was then planning on giving it a coat of Iron X and washing it with Opti-clean to get the paint perfectly clean... I got about halfway done polishing yesterday and got talked into going mushroom hunting and pretty much shot the rest of the day! Going to see if I can get the polish part done tonight after work.

I will post pictures and my observation's when I am done with both...
 
Deep Gloss Auto Salon said:
I have not use CQ but I have used OC on my personal as well as two customers’ exotics.



If I may suggest, please do not prejudice yourself before using OC as I have been very pleased with it thus far!
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I'm not. If I was...I wouldn't try both. But I'm getting both. I'll use the one I like best for my future jobs.

PAR Detailing said:
Kris, If you go with Opti-Coat consider picking up the Pro version as it wont take as long to flash off making the process faster for you.
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I will do that! Thanks.

Tom Weed said:
Hi Kristopher,
I was thinking the same thing, which to get... I got both, and have been trying to find the time to get them applied. My gf has a black Sonata and I have a black Grand Prix, I was going to apply CQuartz on hers and Opti-coat on mine and go from there...

I started the prep on her car yesterday by washing and claying it, then polishing all the little scratches out with the Flex 3401 and a maroon LC Hydro pad and Menzerna 106, and a mineral spirits wipe down to remove the oils. I was then planning on giving it a coat of Iron X and washing it with Opti-clean to get the paint perfectly clean... I got about halfway done polishing yesterday and got talked into going mushroom hunting and pretty much shot the rest of the day! Going to see if I can get the polish part done tonight after work.

I will post pictures and my observation's when I am done with both...
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I look forward to the pics!

Wendell Jarvis said:
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I had the same thought also??????..........It really does not matter if its a Garage Queen or a Daily Driver
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Who cares what I think. I haven't even used the products yet. I'm allowed to have assumptions. I'm pretty sure of that.

My main reasoning behind that, was because Opti coat says you can put it over any surface. Doesn't really specify that the paint should be fully corrected. But it seems like CQuartz should only be used on corrected paint, or new flawless paint. Hence my assumptions. I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

Doesn't mean I'm right. It's just the impression I was under.
 
Kristopher1129 said:
I'm not. If I was...I wouldn't try both. But I'm getting both. I'll use the one I like best for my future jobs.



I will do that! Thanks.



I look forward to the pics!



Who cares what I think. I haven't even used the products yet. I'm allowed to have assumptions. I'm pretty sure of that.

My main reasoning behind that, was because Opti coat says you can put it over any surface. Doesn't really specify that the paint should be fully corrected. But it seems like CQuartz should only be used on corrected paint, or new flawless paint. Hence my assumptions. I don't know why that's so hard to understand.

Doesn't mean I'm right. It's just the impression I was under.
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I hope I did not put you on the defense as that was not my intent. Please accept my apologies if I created a tense environment.

As with CQ when using OC you also want to correct your paint to your acceptance criteria as the defects will be "locked in" under the coating until you remove it by abrasion.


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Deep Gloss Auto Salon said:
I hope I did not put you on the defense as that was not my intent. Please accept my apologies if I created a tense environment.

As with CQ when using OC you also want to correct your paint to your acceptance criteria as the defects will be "locked in" under the coating until you remove it by abrasion.


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No worries, it's all good.

Do you like one of these products over the other? I know you mentioned that you like Opti-coat.

I read in a thread when Opti-Coat 2.0 came out, that they really focused on making it easier to apply. Is that true?
 
Hi Kristopher

I know you would probably have customers who would appreciate a 2 year sealant and also those who would appreciate a permanent product. The look is so similar and subjective that there's really no point in discussing it. My concern for you is that you have to have confidence in a product to feel comfortable selling it to your customers. In another thread you implied that you didn't trust ONR to work well as it claims, so I think this choice will be similar in that you will have to just try both/either and see what "you" feel comfortable using. At around $50-60 bucks each, you really can't go wrong. Even if you only applied Opti Coat to rims, you'd love it so you really don't have to worry about getting stuck with something you won't use.

Best Regards
Chris@Optimum
 
Chris@Optimum said:
Hi Kristopher

I know you would probably have customers who would appreciate a 2 year sealant and also those who would appreciate a permanent product. The look is so similar and subjective that there's really no point in discussing it. My concern for you is that you have to have confidence in a product to feel comfortable selling it to your customers. In another thread you implied that you didn't trust ONR to work well as it claims, so I think this choice will be similar in that you will have to just try both/either and see what "you" feel comfortable using. At around $50-60 bucks each, you really can't go wrong. Even if you only applied Opti Coat to rims, you'd love it so you really don't have to worry about getting stuck with something you won't use.

Best Regards
Chris@Optimum
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I think ONR works as it claims to work. I just don't think it can take the place of a pressure wash. If I had a pressure washer sitting there, and ONR...I would no doubt use that pressure washer. But that's just me. I love ONR as a product. I use it every single day.

I'm not concerned about the money it takes to buy OC or CQ. I just would like to have some hands on experience with both before I offer the service. I'm sure both would go to good use. Once I try them both out, I will surely find out which works best for me.

If there's one thing I am good at, it's selling my services. But I won't sell anything I don't believe works as advertised. That's why I just need to buy both! ha
 
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