Optima steamer...

Kristopher1129

Kristopher1129

New member
Joined
Jan 3, 2011
Messages
2,861
Reaction score
0
Don't know if you guys know about this thing. But, I've been looking into buying one to use for mobile, and also in the winter at my shop.

If you've done any research on these...they are basically just HUGE steamers. They seem to make their bread and butter on selling it as a wash unit for vehicles.

I can absolutely see this working for me, as I wouldn't have to carry around a water tank, or worry about water containment.

Plus, in the winter...I don't have to wash vehicles outside. I can do a thorough steam cleaning indoors. This thing has that kind of power.

So, I couldn't find any pricing on the steamer on the website. I emailed the company and asked for a price quote. They in turn sent me a questionnaire asking me to answer some questions before they give me a price quote. I thought this was kind of strange.

I answered the questions, and stressed that I just want a price. They sent me a "temporary price quote". The machines are $5,600!! I thought I was going to see at least $2000. But $5,600?! That's not shipping included either. These units are not small...so I can only imagine the shipping cost too.

Anyone actually have one of these??
 
I would not use this on a car I cared about with this steamer and a soft microfiber towel alone, as shown on the video on their website. Sure, I would use it to loosen grime on engines or wheels, and clean interiors, but as far as paint is concerned, where is the lubricity to prevent marring? A car wash detergent provides this. This might be eco- friendly, but I can't see it as friendly to sensitive paint.

Another thing to consider is that you can't just use tap water in a steam cleaner. You need to use distilled. If you do not, the minerals contained in the non distilled water will be caused to deposit inside of the until as a result of the process of converting the water into steam. This will damage the unit, basically making it inoperable. The minerals will clog it up inside.

You will also probably use a lot more microfiber towels to clean the exterior of a car with this than you would if rinsed the dirt off with a conventional wash. Then you need to carry a lot of towels and wash a lot of towels later.
 
Last edited:
Blackthorn One said:
I would not use this on a car I cared about with this steamer and a soft microfiber towel alone, as shown on the video on their website. Sure, I would use it to loosen grime on engines or wheels, and clean interiors, but as far as paint is concerned, where is the lubricity to prevent marring? A car wash detergent provides this. This might be eco- friendly, but I can't see it as friendly to sensitive paint.

Another thing to consider is that you can't just use tap water in a steam cleaner. You need to use distilled. If you do not, the minerals contained in the non distilled water will be caused to deposit inside of the until as a result of the process of converting the water into steam. This will damage the unit, basically making it inoperable. The minerals will clog it up inside.

You will also probably use a lot more microfiber towels to clean the exterior of a car with this than you would if rinsed the dirt off with a conventional wash. Then you need to carry a lot of towels and wash a lot of towels later.
Click to expand...

Plus it costs $5,600, haha. Good points though...makes sense.

I was thinking the same thing too. It's pretty much just like spraying water and wiping. Not good for paint. I don't think anyone would argue that.
 
theres got to be a cheaper system available..

$5K plus is steep!
 
I just had optima steamers friend me on facebook. I looked into it but the unit just seems way to big for my set up.

The link you just posted seems more in the ball park of a serious detailer. The steam will loosen everything up and then waterless wash would work well after.

The steamer route is definitely something to consider being in New England...have to worry about those cold days. Of course this year hasn't been bad at all! I'm still operating and haven't had to worry much about the freezing weather.
 
I think the nb2300 is made in china, ask Kevin about it.
You need a dedicated 18amp outlet to use this steamer.
but the size, non-boiler and the price seems good, it can fit in my Yaris too.
 
SeaJay's said:
I just had optima steamers friend me on facebook. I looked into it but the unit just seems way to big for my set up.

The link you just posted seems more in the ball park of a serious detailer. The steam will loosen everything up and then waterless wash would work well after.

The steamer route is definitely something to consider being in New England...have to worry about those cold days. Of course this year hasn't been bad at all! I'm still operating and haven't had to worry much about the freezing weather.
Click to expand...

Yeah, we seriously haven't had a winter until today, lol.

That's why I want one, for those cold winter days. Being able to wash inside would be unbelievable! A lot of times I do the two bucket wash inside with ONR. But, that leaves the floor a little wet...and I'm not a fan of a rinseless wash.

I think doing a waterless wash does OK. But, it doesn't push dirt and grime out of crevices, and a steam cleaner like that would.

I emailed the guy who sells them, and he said he's out of the NB2300. Which is the one in the video. He asked what I'd be doing with it, and that he might have another machine very similar that will work. Still waiting on his reply...
 
Kristopher1129 said:
Yeah, we seriously haven't had a winter until today, lol.

That's why I want one, for those cold winter days. Being able to wash inside would be unbelievable! A lot of times I do the two bucket wash inside with ONR. But, that leaves the floor a little wet...and I'm not a fan of a rinseless wash.

I think doing a waterless wash does OK. But, it doesn't push dirt and grime out of crevices, and a steam cleaner like that would.

I emailed the guy who sells them, and he said he's out of the NB2300. Which is the one in the video. He asked what I'd be doing with it, and that he might have another machine very similar that will work. Still waiting on his reply...
Click to expand...

I have been doing a lot of ONR washes lately and while it's not my preferred method of washing it does get the job done.

Keep us posted on what he comes back with. Definitely maybe something I'd be interested in. Maybe not any time in the near future though...only a couple more months and it will be starting to get warm again!
 
SeaJay's said:
I have been doing a lot of ONR washes lately and while it's not my preferred method of washing it does get the job done.

Keep us posted on what he comes back with. Definitely maybe something I'd be interested in. Maybe not any time in the near future though...only a couple more months and it will be starting to get warm again!
Click to expand...

I'm in the same boat man, haha.
 
You know, after seeing his video, I realize that this steam cleaner is a great pre clean if you are going to do a waterless wash, to get the big dirt off, and clean out the nooks and crannies pretty well. Then do your waterless wash as you normally would. That would make a waterless wash much safer.
 
Blackthorn One said:
You know, after seeing his video, I realize that this steam cleaner is a great pre clean if you are going to do a waterless wash, to get the big dirt off, and clean out the nooks and crannies pretty well. Then do your waterless wash as you normally would. That would make a waterless wash much safer.
Click to expand...

Exactly. For me, being in New Hampshire...it would be perfect for winter. Of course I could always do a two bucket wash, which is what I do if it's too cold out. But, the steam would really get areas a rinseless wash would not.

I exchanged a few emails with him, and I'm going to call tomorrow for a price. My guess, is it's nowhere near $5,600 like the Optima.
 
Kristopher1129 said:
Exactly. For me, being in New Hampshire...it would be perfect for winter. Of course I could always do a two bucket wash, which is what I do if it's too cold out. But, the steam would really get areas a rinseless wash would not.

I exchanged a few emails with him, and I'm going to call tomorrow for a price. My guess, is it's nowhere near $5,600 like the Optima.
Click to expand...

Tell him you may have a group buy and see if the price drops
 
If you think the price is high for a commercial steam cleaner like the optima then google the price on espresso machines. IMO that puts things into perspective. The versatility that the optima has is like several machines in one. After seeing ShineTimes video of using his machine to do a complete wash I researched and IIRC optima has a steamer that does steam cleaning and extracting, plus the pressure you need to do steam washes with out have to wipe that much dirt off by hand. If I had the money I would buy one as it takes the place of several pieces of equipment.
 
Has anyone considered the Daimer Super Max 6000? It's a propane heated high pressure (750 psi) steamer. It'll spray cold water, hot water or wet steam. The video on Daimer's website states a wet steam is preferable to dry steam when using it on exterior surfaces. The additional water content acts as the lubricating agent, thus preventing scratches when washing a car (their words, not mine).

The Super Max line made in the good ole' USA and also costs around $5200, which puts it in the same class as the South Korean Optima steamer. The Optima is diesel heated and is ready to go in 2 minutes; the Super Max is ready in as few as 30 seconds.

The Optima's operating pressure is around 120 psi and can be used with two spray nozzles so one can work the exterior while the other person works the interior. I've heard Renny Doyle say that high pressure steamers are not necessary as they can cause damage where lower pressure steamers don't. Is 750+ psi really necessary?

FWIW -- I think the NB2300 steamer is around $3500. I find this unit very interesting.

I like the idea of using steam for total detailing. Very little runoff, doesn't use a lot of water, versatile and effective. Eventually I'll migrate towards a Super Max/Optima type system and go *green* (like the folding kind, eh?).
 
as I remember, I think the nb2300 is about 3000usd + hst taxes + shipping from Kevin.
The Chinese company that made this machine is about 2000usd. I have to look again, talked to them last year.
 
604_Snooze said:
as I remember, I think the nb2300 is about 3000usd + hst taxes + shipping from Kevin.
The Chinese company that made this machine is about 2000usd. I have to look again, talked to them last year.
Click to expand...

Sounds better than $5,600 to me!
 
Wax starts to break down at about 100F. I wouldn't be surprised if they removed some wax...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top