Optimum has rrocked the Waterless Wash market!

I have only used ONR for the last 3 washing sessions and I must say that it pleased me with a week old dirt with just a bucket and 2 gallons of ONR solution. But on a two weeks dirty car I have to be more careful and rinse the sponge more often. One bucket with two gallons of solution gets dirty quicker. Maybe two buckets could give better results when the car is a bit more dirty.

Anyway, I have tried OCW, OID, and ONR, and a bottle of OOS is waiting to be tried. I must say I'm more than pleased with OCW, happy using OID even if it streaks a little, and have a weekly ONR, monthly pressure washer washing routine set up.
 
I have loved all of the Optimum products I've purchased. They're all well priced and perform exceptionally well. Optiseal, and OCW make for a great combo. They're easy to use and on a properly maintained surface perform as good as anything out there. Dr. Ghodoussi really does have a niche for making great products.

This new Opti-Clean looks like it will be an "All in One" product. I like the idea of being able to use it for both interior and exterior. This might be a sound alternative for products like QID, or 1Z Cockpit for high volume shops.

Optimum just can't be beat for performance and ease of use. Love their products. Optimum is definitely one of my top three favorite detailing companies of all time.

I like that Optimum Technologies is expanding there line. Keep up the good work Dr. G.
 
Old Tiger said:
Dr. G's long awaited entry into WW is BY FAR the best bang for the buck! DP WW is $45 a gallon and PB S & W is $32. Optimum's CONCENTRATE is $29 and makes 4 gallons. Thats an incredible $7.25 a gallon! I bought 2 gallons yesterday sight unseen, If its Optimum I have NO DOUBT it will be a great product regardless of price. Well done Dr. G!
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Actually, the concentrate is $39.99 per gallon. Still pretty good, that's ten bucks per gallon after dilution.
 
Do you guys really rate this kind of waterless wash formulas? I mean I just can't dare to touch my paint with that much dirt on, by just believing that a fine mist of spray can lift the dirt, encapsulate the particles and transform them into mushy marshmallows :)

Have you got a trick? Or are they just some stronger QDs?
 
Erik Mejia said:
I have loved all of the Optimum products I've purchased. They're all well priced and perform exceptionally well. Optiseal, and OCW make for a great combo. They're easy to use and on a properly maintained surface perform as good as anything out there. Dr. Ghodoussi really does have a niche for making great products.

This new Opti-Clean looks like it will be an "All in One" product. I like the idea of being able to use it for both interior and exterior. This might be a sound alternative for products like QID, or 1Z Cockpit for high volume shops.

Optimum just can't be beat for performance and ease of use. Love their products. Optimum is definitely one of my top three favorite detailing companies of all time.

I like that Optimum Technologies is expanding there line. Keep up the good work Dr. G.
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If you think Opti-seal is "good"... my guess is you've never tried UPGP. Sorry, but Opti-seal is not that good. Stale gloss and durability is awful. UPGP is now my go-to sealant. It has WGDGPS/4Star UPP looks at 1/4 of the application time. Durability and slickness are a major plus as well.

I sold my Opti-seal after first use.
 
Rob T said:
By contrast, my observations are that Opti-Seal has gloss that is every bit as good as UPGP, with the added benefit that it has better depth than UPGP.
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We can agree to disagree then. :) no problem. That's what this forum and open comments are for. However, I do believe I am not the only who shares this opinion regarding Opti-seal and UPGP.

Ask CEE DOG and RSurfer about UPGP. Opti-seal doesn't even come close. I also knwo a few folks who are as disappointed in Opti-seal as I am. Not saying ALL of Optimum's line is bad... I like they're other stuff a lot, esp OCW for a quick post wash wax.
 
sportscarhiatus said:
We can agree to disagree then. :) no problem. That's what this forum and open comments are for. However, I do believe I am not the only who shares this opinion regarding Opti-seal and UPGP.

Ask CEE DOG and RSurfer about UPGP. Opti-seal doesn't even come close. I also knwo a few folks who are as disappointed in Opti-seal as I am. Not saying ALL of Optimum's line is bad... I like they're other stuff a lot, esp OCW for a quick post wash wax.
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sportscarhiatus said:
If you think Opti-seal is "good"... my guess is you've never tried UPGP. Sorry, but Opti-seal is not that good. Stale gloss and durability is awful. UPGP is now my go-to sealant. It has WGDGPS/4Star UPP looks at 1/4 of the application time. Durability and slickness are a major plus as well.

I sold my Opti-seal after first use.
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:offtopic::hijacked:This thread is supposed to be about Waterless wash!:bolt:
 
Have you ever told a woman she looks good "for her age?" I have the results from OPT that much higher priced brands produce with the added bonus of taking less time. OPT is not good "for the money", OPT is a real contender at any price.

Opti-Clean works great and ONR washes need some areas (bugs, lower panels) prepped with Power-Clean as you wash to get pressure washer results. Selling Opti-seal short after one use could have just been application problems, but you do need to use what gets you the results you want. I'm not trying to convert the world to OPT, but you guys have to realize different technique must be used with innovative products that defy traditional methods.

One thing on durability. I have been using a wax remover/degreaser wipedown quickly post wash and pre LSP and have noticed the durability of every product I use increase. My guess is that something on the surface or wash shampoos that are too strong are the culprit with some of the durability issues some of you guys are having. I get 3-4 months easy out of OS easily when I wash the cars. When the customers hit the swirl o matic or the touchless (high ph followed by low ph) every couple weeks, anything except a coating like Opti-Coat is gone.
 
sportscarhiatus said:
We can agree to disagree then. :) no problem. That's what this forum and open comments are for. However, I do believe I am not the only who shares this opinion regarding Opti-seal and UPGP.

Ask CEE DOG and RSurfer about UPGP. Opti-seal doesn't even come close. I also knwo a few folks who are as disappointed in Opti-seal as I am. Not saying ALL of Optimum's line is bad... I like they're other stuff a lot, esp OCW for a quick post wash wax.
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Well, if I had only known that there were others that shared your opinion I never would have posted my contrary view!

Seriously, that proves nothing. Trust me, I can say the same thing about the OS vs UPGP comparison: "I do believe I am not the only who shares this opinion regarding Opti-seal and UPGP". There are several respected members at Autopia who agree regarding UPGP's lack of depth, especially compared to OS.
 
Rob T said:
Seriously, that proves nothing. Trust me, I can say the same thing about the OS vs UPGP comparison: "I do believe I am not the only who shares this opinion regarding Opti-seal and UPGP". There are several respected members at Autopia who agree regarding UPGP's lack of depth, especially compared to OS.
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I think it'd be safe to say there are fanboys in both camps. Just leave it as that.
 
Mindflux said:
I think it'd be safe to say there are fanboys in both camps. Just leave it as that.
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Yep, and as I said recently in another post, I fear that I am starting to come across as an OS "fanboy" myself. :eek:
 
to continue barely on-topic, I use optimum for pretty much everything. there are a few exceptions for niche products, but my shelves have mostly optimum. i like to find something that works and stick with it. Ghodoussi seems to just flat out be able to get things dialed and he makes life easy with the large sizes that you can dilute. just like anything in this country, you can spend oodles of oodles of money trying to find whatever is better, when good enough is probably best. if someone details a car with mostly optimum products, and someone else with a cherry picked list, nobody will be able to tell the difference at any point during that detail's life cycle. that's my opinion.

i wish the defense department felt this way, but that's another story for another thread.

i use from his line:

powerclean at 1:1, 3:1 and 10:1

instant detailer at 4:1 with distilled water. it's perfect.

opti-seal is resilient, cheap, easiest thing ever to apply and looks great.

the tire shine is fantastic and durable...and good for materials.

leather protectant works very well for leather AND synthetic materials.

the regular optimum shampoo is great. it's just like duragloss 902, same price, similar concentration. same effectiveness. different smell and different consistency.

the polish and compound are very flexible, no complaints.

the only items i have not liked from him are his metal polish - it's very weak...and the spray wax is an odd item. i seem to have problems with that product buffing off on certain vehicles and haven't figured out why. when it does buff off, it works well, but it doesn't seem to look different enough from the purely synthetic sealant. dunno.
 
builthatch said:
to continue barely on-topic, I use optimum for pretty much everything. there are a few exceptions for niche products, but my shelves have mostly optimum. i like to find something that works and stick with it. Ghodoussi seems to just flat out be able to get things dialed and he makes life easy with the large sizes that you can dilute. just like anything in this country, you can spend oodles of oodles of money trying to find whatever is better, when good enough is probably best. if someone details a car with mostly optimum products, and someone else with a cherry picked list, nobody will be able to tell the difference at any point during that detail's life cycle. that's my opinion.

i wish the defense department felt this way, but that's another story for another thread.

i use from his line:

powerclean at 1:1, 3:1 and 10:1

instant detailer at 4:1 with distilled water. it's perfect.

opti-seal is resilient, cheap, easiest thing ever to apply and looks great.

the tire shine is fantastic and durable...and good for materials.

leather protectant works very well for leather AND synthetic materials.

the regular optimum shampoo is great. it's just like duragloss 902, same price, similar concentration. same effectiveness. different smell and different consistency.

the polish and compound are very flexible, no complaints.

the only items i have not liked from him are his metal polish - it's very weak...and the spray wax is an odd item. i seem to have problems with that product buffing off on certain vehicles and haven't figured out why. when it does buff off, it works well, but it doesn't seem to look different enough from the purely synthetic sealant. dunno.
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I also dillute my OID at 4:1, this is the sweet spot ratio in my opinion :dblthumb2:
 
builthatch said:
to continue barely on-topic, I use optimum for pretty much everything. there are a few exceptions for niche products, but my shelves have mostly optimum. i like to find something that works and stick with it. Ghodoussi seems to just flat out be able to get things dialed and he makes life easy with the large sizes that you can dilute. just like anything in this country, you can spend oodles of oodles of money trying to find whatever is better, when good enough is probably best. if someone details a car with mostly optimum products, and someone else with a cherry picked list, nobody will be able to tell the difference at any point during that detail's life cycle. that's my opinion.

i wish the defense department felt this way, but that's another story for another thread.

i use from his line:

powerclean at 1:1, 3:1 and 10:1

instant detailer at 4:1 with distilled water. it's perfect.

opti-seal is resilient, cheap, easiest thing ever to apply and looks great.

the tire shine is fantastic and durable...and good for materials.

leather protectant works very well for leather AND synthetic materials.

the regular optimum shampoo is great. it's just like duragloss 902, same price, similar concentration. same effectiveness. different smell and different consistency.

the polish and compound are very flexible, no complaints.

the only items i have not liked from him are his metal polish - it's very weak...and the spray wax is an odd item. i seem to have problems with that product buffing off on certain vehicles and haven't figured out why. when it does buff off, it works well, but it doesn't seem to look different enough from the purely synthetic sealant. dunno.
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Well said and OID is best for me @ 4:1 too! Thats $10/gallon!
 
builthatch said:
to continue barely on-topic, I use optimum for pretty much everything. there are a few exceptions for niche products, but my shelves have mostly optimum. i like to find something that works and stick with it. Ghodoussi seems to just flat out be able to get things dialed and he makes life easy with the large sizes that you can dilute. just like anything in this country, you can spend oodles of oodles of money trying to find whatever is better, when good enough is probably best. if someone details a car with mostly optimum products, and someone else with a cherry picked list, nobody will be able to tell the difference at any point during that detail's life cycle. that's my opinion.

i wish the defense department felt this way, but that's another story for another thread.

i use from his line:

powerclean at 1:1, 3:1 and 10:1

instant detailer at 4:1 with distilled water. it's perfect.

opti-seal is resilient, cheap, easiest thing ever to apply and looks great.

the tire shine is fantastic and durable...and good for materials.

leather protectant works very well for leather AND synthetic materials.

the regular optimum shampoo is great. it's just like duragloss 902, same price, similar concentration. same effectiveness. different smell and different consistency.

the polish and compound are very flexible, no complaints.

the only items i have not liked from him are his metal polish - it's very weak...and the spray wax is an odd item. i seem to have problems with that product buffing off on certain vehicles and haven't figured out why. when it does buff off, it works well, but it doesn't seem to look different enough from the purely synthetic sealant. dunno.
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Is powerclean at 10:1 for interiors? It seems every time I place an order I almost pull the trigger on it.
 
Rob T said:
Well, if I had only known that there were others that shared your opinion I never would have posted my contrary view!

Seriously, that proves nothing. Trust me, I can say the same thing about the OS vs UPGP comparison: "I do believe I am not the only who shares this opinion regarding Opti-seal and UPGP". There are several respected members at Autopia who agree regarding UPGP's lack of depth, especially compared to OS.
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Mindflux said:
I think it'd be safe to say there are fanboys in both camps. Just leave it as that.
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fair enough. we agree to disagree. back on topic.
 
golliger said:
Is powerclean at 10:1 for interiors? It seems every time I place an order I almost pull the trigger on it.
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yep. and you'll find you can even go weaker for interiors, especially if you are working on cars that just don't see that much driving (exotics, etc). like, cleaning finger oils and light sole marks, etc.

powerclean is pretty neat in the gallon size.
 
sportscarhiatus said:
If you think Opti-seal is "good"... my guess is you've never tried UPGP. Sorry, but Opti-seal is not that good. Stale gloss and durability is awful. UPGP is now my go-to sealant. It has WGDGPS/4Star UPP looks at 1/4 of the application time. Durability and slickness are a major plus as well.

I sold my Opti-seal after first use.
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What is UPGP?
 
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