Optimum PolySeal quick thoughts

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What product is best suited for quick clean up on neglected paint, heavily oxidized, cc failure, etchings, waterspots, etc?

Oh yeah...need to mention that owner is a retired person with $150 budget, more concerned with protection than correction, 4 hour clean up window and frowned on the use of a rotary :)





Hood before wash



Clear coat failure



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Roof before wash




Roof after wash - oxidation



Trunk before wash




Even though I have GPS, thought that I would give OPS a go due to car being in early stage cc failure.


Thoughts or opinions?
 
Hood test spot 50/50 PolySeal



Test spot after




Pad after hood



Vehicle had a total repaint somewhere in its past.


Roof before wash



Roof oxidation before PolySeal



1/4 of roof after PolySeal

 
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Is that a blue LC CCS pad? I would have thought white might get you a little more bite without sacrificing finish quality.

Also, contrary to what some people post on various forums, poli-seal sucks on plastic trim.
 
Door before OPS

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After OPS & OCW

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Trunk before wash



50/50 OPS



Trunk OPS

 
After Optimum Car Wax & Optimum Tire Shine










Temps were dropping as the daylight ebbed. I've got 8 stitches in my mouth and decided to pack up. Most deeper waterspots and etchings remain. All in all , customer is pleased so far.

Noon today: 2 hour light interior and windows, top off tire pressure, change out seat covers then done.
 
Good to see a reciew on what OPS can do. I've never used it before and don't own any. From the photo's and from what I have in my arsenal I'd have chose DG 501, or XMT 360 on a yellow or orange pad. If I get some OPS I could add that to my list of choices. Seems like it done a nice turn around.

Notice your fingers somewhat reflecting in the photo with the leaf. As a teaser, the roof I've been working on had zero reflection...nada.

Nice work Vegas.

By the way, I thought that looked like an Automagic bottle and sure enough it was. What's the skinny behind that? Do you use/like any of their stuff? Shoot me a pm if you like.
 
I ordered some cheap mf's from AM along with the bottles last year. I also have several gallons of AM products from Vegas collecting dust. My truck and RV bi-level brushes came from there too.


OPS and 360 are comparable. I like OPS better because I top with OOS, OCW, or both. The 360 is collecting dust.
Usually I would add PolishII or OHP to the pad, but the tinted clear shows heavy early stage cc failure throughout the vehicle.

Hoytman said:
As a teaser, the roof I've been working on had zero reflection...nada.

Nice work Vegas.
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Bummer on a black vehicle. At least the vehicle is tall enough that if you go for a cc respray, the lines would be less noticable due to the height.
Thanks!
 
-With the detailing time-frame allotment you were given; the paint's 'condition';
and your Customer's budget restraints...

-I believe your decision to OPT {FUN-PUN (?)} for Poli-Seal, as your AIO, was an excellent choice!! :props:

(Plus, not to overlook, OP-S': Compatibility-factor...with your other Optimum products.)

-Thanks for sharing another one of your detailing-gems, VT!

:)

Bob
 
Mike has several quotes concerning the one step aio issue for those new to detailing.
Don't make much sense pushing full correction$ to those that neglect their vehicles.

This 1995 is in rather good shape for its age being outside 24/7... just one too many 1 bucket 1 rag, periodic drive-by crack-head washes.

Picked up a Lex window tint removal, headlight recon., swirl and etching correction for 10 am. The only bad thing is I have to be out there before dusk.

There's a lot of nice people in the hood looking for mobile. I really dig retirees - big cars , big pockets.
 
y8s said:
Also, contrary to what some people post on various forums, poli-seal sucks on plastic trim.
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Not the Mini !?!?

You really have to be careful decoding product users from those talking the talk...if that's possible.
See FUN725's sig line.
Also, there are mfg's that claim non-staining products that won't appear initially, but given time will stick out like a sore thumb. AM products come to mind.
 
Vegas Transplant said:
Not the Mini !?!?
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I cavalierly bumped the edge of the wheel well trim with a white pad and poli-seal. It discolored it slightly either from the abrasion or the product. I am able to make it look good again but it seems like it tries to return to the "I got crap in my plastic" look if I clean it with APC.

You really have to be careful decoding product users from those talking the talk...if that's possible.
See FUN725's sig line.
Also, there are mfg's that claim non-staining products that won't appear initially, but given time will stick out like a sore thumb. AM products come to mind.
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I certainly use it as a learning experience! Sometimes I have to be the skeptic on both sides of the argument and just make the mistake with my own hands to truly learn. Sometimes it's cheap and sometimes it's not. :)
 
Vegas, thanks for that. I have OPS as it and Polish II and Compound II came with the Orbital when I ordered. Nobody had talked much about it and I only used it on my first detail before switching over to Colli 845 for the wax. I didn't think OPS did much for taking out swirls and scratches, and was thinking it would only be used on a newer car without much imperfections. Still unsure when I will use it....

Also ordered a bottle of Hyper compound, but I feel that it comes somewhere around the Polish II, do you agree. I like the compound II. Anyone have thoughts on comparing that to the twins...I am almost out.
 
y8s said:
I cavalierly bumped the edge of the wheel well trim with a white pad and poli-seal. It discolored it slightly either from the abrasion or the product. I am able to make it look good again but it seems like it tries to return to the "I got crap in my plastic" look if I clean it with APC.



I certainly use it as a learning experience! Sometimes I have to be the skeptic on both sides of the argument and just make the mistake with my own hands to truly learn. Sometimes it's cheap and sometimes it's not. :)
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Well said hand.
Try OOS on the area. Maybe even IPA before the OOS. I've had success with both on Honda Element plastics. I seriously doubt if a casual once over will end in abrasion of the plastic's finish using OPS. Just not enough cut in either the product or pad using a DA.
I have never worked on a Mini.

us6krums said:
Vegas, thanks for that. I have OPS as it and Polish II and Compound II came with the Orbital when I ordered. Nobody had talked much about it and I only used it on my first detail before switching over to Colli 845 for the wax. I didn't think OPS did much for taking out swirls and scratches, and was thinking it would only be used on a newer car without much imperfections. Still unsure when I will use it....

Also ordered a bottle of Hyper compound, but I feel that it comes somewhere around the Polish II, do you agree. I like the compound II. Anyone have thoughts on comparing that to the twins...I am almost out.
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I use OPS as a production one step. I will add other products to the pad when necessary. If the customer is not paying for correction, why add it?

The biggest attribute of OPS is longer working time compared to XMT360. Both being aio's there will be limited correction. IMO, longer working time = more correct...but then again we're talking AIO's.

On my personal vehicles, OPS is the right product for removing toweling marks and minor swirls. It is also the perfect base to apply Opti-Seal, before topping with OCW.

I disagree hand. They are waaaayyyy far apart
OHC is closer to Megs 105 than it is to OHP. Real talk hand.
What is this statement based on...experience or marketing description?
If experience, then may I suggest that you were using too much product on the pad and not letting the pad and product work in unison.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum.../19746-very-comprehensive-compound-chart.html

As far as comparing CompoundII and the Optimum twins...see chart.
CompoundII cuts better, dusts more, works perfectly with the rotary/wool.
OHC can get you to CompoundII results, just takes longer.

I hope this answers your question. Hopefully others will chime in.

Sunshot revealing limited correction of OPS on a production detail. Adding a spritz of OHP or a few drops of PolishII to the pad usually corrects well enough.


 
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Thanks. Yeah I guess that's what I mean as far as taking longer with the OHC. Don't have a rotary and have been just using the MF pads after 6.25" foam pads that came with the DAP didn't cut it...I don't really like the sprayer that came with OHC either. Sprays sporadically and hard to get right amount of product on the MF pad. Thinking about a squeeze bottle.
 
us6krums said:
Thanks. Yeah I guess that's what I mean as far as taking longer with the OHC. Don't have a rotary and have been just using the MF pads after 6.25" foam pads that came with the DAP didn't cut it...I don't really like the sprayer that came with OHC either. Sprays sporadically and hard to get right amount of product on the MF pad. Thinking about a squeeze bottle.
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I tried the squeeze bottle for both OHP (waste of time) and OHC (meh, no real benefit) thought I could pick up a line @10 and 2.

One has to pull the trigger sharply. Can't ease into it if you want a proper spray.
Shake well and thru-out compound process. Clean tube and sprayer if needed.

Help Please - Spray Polish doesnt spray - Optimum Polishes - Optimum Forum

I agree with 5.25 mf pad/PC/OHC not cutting it...well, they will...just takes forever.
Here is a hood done with the OHC/ mf/9227/PC:





Gotta fly...happy detailing...:autowash:
 
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