Optimum Tire Protection Coating (TPC)

Put a coat on then do something else like apply a LSP. Then reapply. If a tire coating is worthwhile, it should be an upsell anyway to cover the extra work involved.

No one is gonna pay for an extra two hours+product cost. I would have to charge 100$ for it to be worth it for me. Not sure how good the product is, but there are good coatings on the market right now that don't require all that extra work.
 
Oh yeah, that's it, "consist by acrylic polymer of resin", and "Not too much oily shine in the surface. Have beautiful and deep burnish. The function of anti-pollution has improved"; who could forget.

EDIT: Is this stuff really a "coating" in the vein of Tuf Shine, M37, or the new Optimum product? Because I found a review over on Autopia and it sounds a bit more like Perl than a coating.

It's acrylic, so it is not like Perl or Opti-bond for sure. Acrylic coatings are the ones that last for a very long time. Same thing as TW Endura. Not sure if it has dye in it or not but the basic material is the same.
 
McKee’s is an acrylic based resin, tac tire coat is the same, Acrylic polymer of resin.

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Optimum states it’s tire coating “a long lasting water based tire shine and protectant”.

Auto geek says Perl is water based protective coating “that lasts up to 3 months!”

Based of discriptions of being water based and acrylic resin based. Optimum product more like Perl and tirecoat more like M37. Everyone’s favorite coating TW endure shine was also acrylic based.


Don’t let the name “coating” fool you....


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3 months! LOL! More like a week. Man these claims crack me up!
 
No one is gonna pay for an extra two hours+product cost. I would have to charge 100$ for it to be worth it for me. Not sure how good the product is, but there are good coatings on the market right now that don't require all that extra work.

I don't see how this Optimum coating is really any different than McKee's or Tuf Shine, you scrub the tire, dry it, and apply the coating--done. I don't see why you would need to apply more than one coat of any of them, and AFAIK all of them have to dry/cure for a half hour or so before you put a second coat on. Or are you saying 1) you need to apply more than one coat, or 2) there is another product that you can apply to a wet tire or put a second coat on in less than a half hour?
 
I asked Yvan about speeding up the curing process with the sidekick like Mike P does with Tuf Shine and Yvan said no.

I would be really curious why a hair dryer wouldn't work.
Soften the rubber and let the product infuse as it drys. I don't really think the acrylic would fall off.
I have used this approach with TW Endura and it has worked fine.

I gotta know why?
 
Oh yeah, that's it, "consist by acrylic polymer of resin", and "Not too much oily shine in the surface. Have beautiful and deep burnish. The function of anti-pollution has improved"; who could forget.

EDIT: Is this stuff really a "coating" in the vein of Tuf Shine, M37, or the new Optimum product? Because I found a review over on Autopia and it sounds a bit more like Perl than a coating.
I have alot of experience with TAC system tire "coating" and its more of a thin liquid than what we are used to in a traditional tire coating. This product produces great results and while some people say it smells fruity I feel it smells like stale beer, LOL.

I've gotta pic some up soon, I've been out for a while and really like this product because of its esse of use and natural sheen!

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I have alot of experience with TAC system tire "coating" and its more of a thin liquid than what we are used to in a traditional tire coating. This product produces great results and while some people say it smells fruity I feel it smells like stale beer, LOL.

I've gotta pick some up soon, I've been out for a while and really like this product because of its ease of use and natural sheen!

I've only used the TW coating (other than the defunct Tropicare coating, which really seems to be just like Tuf Shine but I never had good luck with it because they didn't explain well enough the cleaning required), but I can't imagine anything being thinner than the TW. So you're saying that the TAC product, besides being more of a thin liquid, is more of a thin coating? Less glossy? Durability? Ease of cleaning?
 
I am just saying any product that requires more than one coat is a no go for me. Especially tires. This is the last thing I do on a vehicle, so if I have to sit on my hands for 30 minutes before applying a second coat, it's a complete waste of time.

TW Endura only requires one coat. Haven't used Tuff shine or Adam's equivalent so I can't judge those. If this Optimum product can provide a year of protection with a single coat, then great.
 
I've only used the TW coating (other than the defunct Tropicare coating, which really seems to be just like Tuf Shine but I never had good luck with it because they didn't explain well enough the cleaning required), but I can't imagine anything being thinner than the TW. So you're saying that the TAC product, besides being more of a thin liquid, is more of a thin coating? Less glossy? Durability? Ease of cleaning?
I never let a product run out for a long time so I'm the person to ask there but the looks are there and it does clean up very well but it's not like TW, 2 different products for sure!

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I never let a product run out for a long time so I'm the person to ask there but the looks are there and it does clean up very well but it's not like TW, 2 different products for sure!

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Which one do you think is better


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I would be really curious why a hair dryer wouldn't work.
Soften the rubber and let the product infuse as it drys. I don't really think the acrylic would fall off.
I have used this approach with TW Endura and it has worked fine.

I gotta know why?

Whenever I apply BP or McKee’s tire coatings, I use a small heat gun to help it set up quicker. It works very time.
 
How about heating up the tire before application. I have had to do that with the M37 one when it was a bit too chilly.
 
Just as an FYI...I asked via email whether the TPC was similar to Tuf Shine in nature, and I received a prompt response from Ronald Doyle.

He said that he was not familiar with Tuf Shine, and that they do not test or compare their products with others on the market. He suggested reading user reviews, and that the "one difference in the description is that Optimum TPC is a 6 month product".

I guess time will tell.

Eric
 
Just as an FYI...I asked via email whether the TPC was similar to Tuf Shine in nature, and I received a prompt response from Ronald Doyle.

He said that he was not familiar with Tuf Shine, and that they do not test or compare their products with others on the market. He suggested reading user reviews, and that the "one difference in the description is that Optimum TPC is a 6 month product".

I guess time will tell.

Eric



Thank you for this.

If you don't test or compare your products, against others, how do you know how yours does in comparison to others in the market?
 
Thank you for this.

If you don't test or compare your products, against others, how do you know how yours does in comparison to others in the market?
I was thinking the same thing. Pretty sure that response was a lie. Maybe he's not familiar with Tuf Shine but all companies test against other products.

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Just as an FYI...I asked via email whether the TPC was similar to Tuf Shine in nature, and I received a prompt response from Ronald Doyle. He said that he was not familiar with Tuf Shine, and that they do not test or compare their products with others on the market.

If you don't test or compare your products, against others, how do you know how yours does in comparison to others in the market?

I was thinking the same thing. Pretty sure that response was a lie. Maybe he's not familiar with Tuf Shine but all companies test against other products.

You know, I typed up a big long comment, but the long and short of it is that I believe they don't test other products. There is a video floating around the AG store with a new product intro for one of the OPT products, with Dr. G and Mike Phillips, and in the conversation, Dr. G says "I'm not a detailer Mike, that's why I rely on people like you".

Dr. G is a lab geek, I think the people in his orbit say "Dr. G, you should make a tire coating" and he asks what it should be like, and he goes off and concocts it and gives them something to test and they refine it.

The forum answer-guy, Ron, doesn't work at Optimum, as I understand it he's some sort of retired sales/marketing guy who monitors the forum from home, and he's not a detailer or even close. When he first took over that job after Chris got dumped, he was really pretty clueless, but he's picked up a lot over the last couple of years. There seems to be a lot of funneling questions back and forth by email.

Optimum has never had full-time people on staff like AG has had with Mike Phillips and Nick, the public-facing Optimum people always have had their own detailing businesses, Anthony Orosco, Scottwax, Chris, Dann, Yvan. It may have changed now, I know Dann sold his business, but he doesn't work "at" Optimum, he's the west coast rep. Yvan had two shops up in Canada and AFAIK he still does, even though he may not be running them day-to-day since he is doing so much PR/training now for Optimum, but who knows, obviously he couldn't be in both shops at the same time, so he may be juggling both of them and the OPT gig also, which would be pretty much par for the course from what I have observed over the years.
 
Optimum Tire Protection & Coating Review

Prep - Lots of PowerClean Full Strength. Probably 4oz per tire. Scrub, rinsed, scrub , rinsed.

2 light coats coats applied with MF towel

Pictures are of the same tire for the whole process. Each picture taken 30 mins later

1. Clean - waited 30 mins to fully dry
2. Coat 1 - waited 30 mins, took picture
3. Coat 2 - waited 30 mins, took picture
4. Outside - Next morning

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I wonder if thread will make the product appear in the store here

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