Other SMAT Compounds and Polishes

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I know Meguiars, and I do like using Megs, but does anyone know of other products that are SMAT? I think 3D Products as well

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Speaking of this question, is there a chart or something that categorizes different brands as either SMAT or DAT polishes?
 
Not wanting to step on Meguiar's toes...

What are the compounds/polishes...that use some combination of both diminishing and non-diminishing abrasive technologies---in the same bottle...known as?


Bob
 
Not wanting to step on Meguiar's toes...

What are the compounds/polishes...that use some combination of both diminishing and non-diminishing abrasive technologies---in the same bottle...known as?


Bob

Wolfgang Über Compound is one that comes to mind.
 
Not wanting to step on Meguiar's toes...

What are the compounds/polishes...that use some combination of both diminishing and non-diminishing abrasive technologies---in the same bottle...known as?


Bob

SMDAT - as in give me SMDAT compound, it's good stuff.
 
Wolfgang Über Compound is one that comes to mind.
OK...Then what is the mixture of its abrasives called?
Does it go by something like: rat-a-tat-DAT-SMAT? {LOL!}


[One of the Menzerna compounds goes by AAT.]


Bob
 
OK...Then what is the mixture of its abrasives called?
Does it go by something like: rat-a-tat-DAT-SMAT? {LOL!}


[One of the Menzerna compounds goes by AAT.]


Bob

I always thought the term "hybrid compound" would have been an accurate description.
 
I always thought the term "hybrid compound" would have been an accurate description.
As long as "hybrid" works for you...:xyxthumbs:

However:
It makes me think of hodgepodge.
And: Admixture, medley...even mongrel.


Bob
 
OK...Then what is the mixture of its abrasives called?
Does it go by something like: rat-a-tat-DAT-SMAT? {LOL!}


[One of the Menzerna compounds goes by AAT.]


Bob

That's easy.. just called it SMAT DAT. Like "smack that" or "smack dat" for rememberance. :dblthumb2:
 
does anyone know of other products that are SMAT? I think 3D Products as well
It's been mentioned that at least some
of 3D's/HD's abrasives are non-diminishing.

[One of the Menzerna compounds goes by AAT.]
There are two new, soon to be forthcoming,
3D products that are stated to contain:
"Adaptive Abrasive Technology" (AAT) type of abrasives.


However:
This is not the name of (or probably not the same as) the above mentioned Menzerna's:
"Agglomerate Abrasive Technology" (AAT) abrasives.


It appears to me:
Other Brands do make an honest attempt to not
infringe upon Meguiar's SMAT/DAT nomenclature.


Bob
 
It appears to me:
Other Brands do make an honest attempt to not
infringe upon Meguiar's SMAT/DAT nomenclature.

Well it doesn't appear to me, to my surprise, that Meguiar's has trademarked the SMAT designation.
 
As long as "hybrid" works for you...:xyxthumbs:

However:
It makes me think of hodgepodge.
And: Admixture, medley...even mongrel.


Bob

Ha! Mongrel!

I love it!
 
It's been mentioned that at least some
of 3D's/HD's abrasives are non-diminishing.


There are two new, soon to be forthcoming,
3D products that are stated to contain:
"Adaptive Abrasive Technology" (AAT) type of abrasives.


However:
This is not the name of (or probably not the same as) the above mentioned Menzerna's:
"Agglomerate Abrasive Technology" (AAT) abrasives.


It appears to me:
Other Brands do make an honest attempt to not
infringe upon Meguiar's SMAT/DAT nomenclature.


Bob

Do we know which of Menzerna's products contain both types of abrasives?
 
Do we know which of Menzerna's products contain both types of abrasives?
It has been stated that FG400 has
Menzerna's type of AAT abrasives.

•For further information regarding Menzerna's,
(or any other Brands' "types" of abrasive technologies),
I was told it's best to:

-contact the manufacturer
-contact the vendors
-ask on a "detailing forum"
-experiment with different compounds/polishes

^^^PHOOEY!!^^^

•Even though there probably are manufacturers that use only one "type" of abrasive technology...
-I prefer that all manufacturers would have their products' abrasive technologies become common knowledge:
"chart-able", as it were.


Bob
 
It has been stated that FG400 has
Menzerna's type of AAT abrasives.

•For further information regarding Menzerna's,
(or any other Brands' "types" of abrasive technologies),
I was told it's best to:

-contact the manufacturer
-contact the vendors
-ask on a "detailing forum"
-experiment with different compounds/polishes

^^^PHOOEY!!^^^

•Even though there probably are manufacturers that use only one "type" of abrasive technology...
-I prefer that all manufacturers would have their products' abrasive technologies become common knowledge:
"chart-able", as it were.


Bob

Thanks, Bob!

I agree with ya.
 
HD Cut, Adapt and Polish only use SMAT.

Optimum Hyper Compound and Polish only use SMAT.
 
OK... so are these products and abrasives actually new... or is the marketing terminology the new bit?

As far as we can gather, there is a large range of abrasives which have been in use for polishing for a rather long time. Terminology like SMAT/DAT/AAT/etc. is utterly unknown to the big abrasive manufacturers - so these terms are undoubtedly creations of car care brand marketers. So you need to ask yourselves whether the abrasives they are using are actually new or not. Having discussed this at length with the supply chain, they believe that they would have numerous abrasives which could be considered to me SMAT and a number which would be DAT. As above, these are not new abrasives and have been used in polishes for decades. So, I am inclined to suggest that there are any number of products out there which use these various technologies but you will have no idea what they use, simply because the terminology is invented and (since not all brands will be familiar with this invented marketing speak) thus many products will simply not try to use this marketing approach.

Frankly, I am left suspecting that the whole topic is rather disingenuous.
 
OK... so are these products and abrasives actually new... or is the marketing terminology the new bit?

Of course it's marketing terminology being used in the attempt to garner as large of a market share as possible.

From my experience:
All abrasives will "break down" in due time when you are polishing. When a car-care product manufacturer states that a SMAT type polish has abrasives that will not break down, that...IMO..is not entirely true.


But...Surely:
Different types/sizes/grades of abrasives from different abrasives manufacturers behave differently...and, thus, will require different buffing techniques---including monitoring the buffing cycle (time).


Bob
 
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