Ozone Generator... Does it really work?

I have not used a Ozone generator yet. Basically I do not have one because whenever I need one I always use a generator rental. To be honest I already forgot which generator I have used. When I need one I simply tell them what I am planning to do and they provide the right generator for me. Can really recommend these kind of services.
 
I don't know if ozone generators work (seems like it), but I can tell anyone that you should absolutely NOT be around them, in closed quarters, for very long. I was in a vacant apartment installing U-verse service, had the patio door open while the machine was running and still got a headache. Be careful...
 
There is a place here in town that I rent a machine from for $28 a day. I don't get enough funky odored cars to justify buying an Ozone machine

They work great though, but you must clean the interior from top to bottom first

I have this machine. I have used it only three times but it worked perfectly. The first job paid for it. It got out rotting chicken, cigarette smoke and a funky soccer mom van smells.

AIR PURIFIER COMMERCIAL OZONE GENERATOR MOLD SMOKE NEW MACHINE CLEANER IONIC | eBay
 
Does anybody have any experience or knowledge about the "Electro-Gen Thermal Fogger" using the Thermo-55 chemicals? I am looking into buying one but want to make sure it is worth the purchase. I would be using it for my used car lot with smokers cars and random odors. Any input would be appreciated!
 
An old thread, I know, but I am surprised no one mentioned how bad ozone is for rubber. It is very well known (google it and you will find everything from anecdote to research papers) so it is something I certainly would not recommend in your vehicle where there are rubber products everywhere.

For smells etc., my preference is the new breed of biological products - totally safe on all surfaces as well as for the user.
 
An old thread, I know, but I am surprised no one mentioned how bad ozone is for rubber. It is very well known (google it and you will find everything from anecdote to research papers) so it is something I certainly would not recommend in your vehicle where there are rubber products everywhere.

For smells etc., my preference is the new breed of biological products - totally safe on all surfaces as well as for the user.

I would like to hear more about this new breed of product you speak of
 
I would like to hear more about this new breed of product you speak of

Basically they work on the same principle as enzyme based products of old. The reason these products were previously not successful in the wider market is because enzymes take quite a bit of time to start working - it wasn't chemical timescales, it was biological. Anyway, with time the products have moved on from being purely enzymatic to being biological blends. This means that in addition to the enzymes, there are also all the in-between 'steps' to enable the products to start working much more rapidly.

As far as the basis for functionality, they are basically little biological machines which are programmed for certain jobs. Take smells, for instance - the biological machines will effectively have a 'slot' which fits only certain chemical sequences. So if a sulphurous group (smelly) were to come into contact with the biological, it would fit and then be broken down into something without the smell. If it came into contact with something else, for instance plastics, they would be like square pegs trying to go into a round slot. As a result, these products are really very safe.

One thing is that people may see that there are enzymes and bacteria and that the products are actually 'alive'. In practice there is absolutely nothing pathogenic about the products. The bacteria are totally harmless to us.

The big downside - compared to chemical products, biologicals are much more expensive.
 
I have not used this in a car, so I can't speak to the effectiveness for this application. However, I have used this in my house and it was quite a remarkable difference from the before to the after. Since this worked so well for my house, and they sell a product for the car which is based on the same system used in the house, I can't imagine it not doing a good job.

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An old thread, I know, but I am surprised no one mentioned how bad ozone is for rubber. It is very well known (google it and you will find everything from anecdote to research papers) so it is something I certainly would not recommend in your vehicle where there are rubber products everywhere.

For smells etc., my preference is the new breed of biological products - totally safe on all surfaces as well as for the user.

It is true that ozone deteriorates rubber,particularly natural rubber. Some rubber is more resistant to ozone than others. If you were running an ozone air purifier on a regular basis, this would be a concern. ( I know, because I've done it. It destroyed rubber o rings and speaker cones, but that was after fairly high concentrations for years, indoors)

I do not believe that a large amount of ozone for a handful of times would cause any significant damage to a car's interior components, and I have run ozone in my car maybe 100 times with no noticeable effects on my already 35 year old interior. I believe that using ozone to rid a car of bad smells only occasionally to be not too damaging. The cost/benefit analysis I have performed shows it is worth it.
 
It is true that ozone deteriorates rubber,particularly natural rubber. Some rubber is more resistant to ozone than others. If you were running an ozone air purifier on a regular basis, this would be a concern. ( I know, because I've done it. It destroyed rubber o rings and speaker cones, but that was after fairly high concentrations for years, indoors)

I do not believe that a large amount of ozone for a handful of times would cause any significant damage to a car's interior components, and I have run ozone in my car maybe 100 times with no noticeable effects on my already 35 year old interior. I believe that using ozone to rid a car of bad smells only occasionally to be not too damaging. The cost/benefit analysis I have performed shows it is worth it.

These things are often subjective. My view is that we do know that ozone is a hazard (the extent of which is the point of debate) so I would immediately direct people to options which do not present that hazard. It is the same reason people shy away from strong acid based wheel cleaners, for instance. The acids can and will cause damage to some rims so we strive to negate that risk with alternative products. However, that is not to say that acid wheel cleaners will definitely damage a rim and thus, as per the ozone, the method is not ruled out for all users.
 
They work very well, but they are not a stand alone machine - meaning that the interior must be cleaned (steam is the best way). Most vehicles have an in-cab filter which also needs to be changed out to be completely successful. If the back seats open up into the trunk area than this also should be done as well as the trunk detailed.

Running the generator for about 20 minutes to 45 minutes (while you're washing/waxing) should be enough time with the right machine.
 
Where I work at we use a lot of ozone but it's not for cars. We deal with a company called ozone solutions and they are real experts in the ozone field. Here's what they say about it.

Ozone Instructions for your Car : Ozone Journal


So Dave, what type of work do you do with Ozone? I was wondering if ozone was strong enough to get smoke smell out of a house as well (where people have been smoking cigs).
 
I have also heard good things about auto vaccine. Their system uses Chlorine Dioxide to remove smells, bacteria, etc...You can google it to find out more, but this is what they say on their website about ozone generators..

"Other chemicals such as ozone can also physically change odor-causing chemical compounds (get rid of them). However, ozone is also very reactive with many non-targeted materials, such as dust in the air, fabric, and plastic and metals that are in the surrounding environment. Because of these non-targeted side reactions, more ozone may be needed for a particular job in order to maintain a level high enough to react with the odor-causing compounds. Additionally, aggressive side reactions can damage furniture and appliances in the area being deodorized with ozone. Ozone also requires the use of sophisticated machinery and electricity."

I would agree on this front! The Chlorine Dioxide solutions I've used in the past have been really easy to use. I think most of them come with a canister where you can simply add water, leave it in your car overnight, and throw away the canister in the morning. With the chlorine dioxide being a gas, it "goes" wherever air can reach in the vehicle and is a big win. This site has an instructional video that shows how to use a chlorine dioxide canister in a vehicle!
 
I would agree on this front! The Chlorine Dioxide solutions I've used in the past have been really easy to use. I think most of them come with a canister where you can simply add water, leave it in your car overnight, and throw away the canister in the morning. With the chlorine dioxide being a gas, it "goes" wherever air can reach in the vehicle and is a big win. This site has an instructional video that shows how to use a chlorine dioxide canister in a vehicle!


So Alex,

Did you read the forum rules?

I came to work this morning and went through pending accounts. I do this every day. I approve real human beings and remove spammers.

When I came across your account and saw you were Alex Whitmore @ pureline.com - I thought,

I should take the time to send this guy and e-mail letting him know he cannot come to this forum and spam it with his business.

But then - I have a lot to do, this would simply be yet another thing I have to do. So I approved your account giving you the benefit of the doubt. And now in your first post you spam the form.


I know I should go with my hunches, but I'm a nice guy and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. I figured you were going to start out by posting a link to your company website but I wanted to give you a chance to prove me wrong.

I'm sure you make great products but Autogeek didn't build this platform as a marketing channel for outside companies. Make sense? It would be like Autogeek having the ability to put an add on your company's homepage for products sold on Autogeek.

I know your intentions are probably good - but that doesn't make it alright.


What say you?



:dunno:
 
And like most people, no one reads any more. :dunno: The link for the forum rules is at the top of EVERY page on this forum.


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