Paint cleaner?

yes it is , it's also got some protection in it. Some folks really like it!
 
it's a chemical paint cleaner. Doesn't correct anything, despite what it says on the product page...
 
Thanks for the quick response, so after polishing this would be a great step?
 
joche26 said:
Thanks for the quick response, so after polishing this would be a great step?
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For my detailing routine, I wash, clay, KAIO and THEN I compound/polish and finally apply the LSP. To me KAIO is a cleanser that allows the paint to pass the "plastic baggie test." Yes it does have some sealant but that's not why I'm using it. You don't want to start compounding/polishing unless the paint is perfectly clean. Best cleanser product I've tried and I've tried several. If the vehicle is in excellent condition, you might not need the compounding or polishing step. And fwiw, my LSP of choice is Blackfire Crystal Seal. Doesn't get easier or better imo.
 
addysdaddy said:
For my detailing routine, I wash, clay, KAIO and THEN I compound/polish and finally apply the LSP. To me KAIO is a cleanser that allows the paint to pass the "plastic baggie test." Yes it does have some sealant but that's not why I'm using it. You don't want to start compounding/polishing unless the paint is perfectly clean. Best cleanser product I've tried and I've tried several. If the vehicle is in excellent condition, you might not need the compounding or polishing step. And fwiw, my LSP of choice is Blackfire Crystal Seal. Doesn't get easier or better imo.
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OHHH!! Thanks for the heads up, so I should KAIO before polishing to have a nice prep surface. Should I KAIO after polishing too, since the twins work better with each other?
 
KAIO is a paint cleaner, probably the best chemical cleaner there is, however there are better products for most problems. I find I'm using it less and less these days.
 
yakky said:
KAIO is a paint cleaner, probably the best chemical cleaner there is, however there are better products for most problems. I find I'm using it less and less these days.
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I am in the same boat sadly. I love(d) klasse AIO, and its actually the first "serious" detailing product I ever bought years ago but as I've gotten more into various polishes, its kind of just sitting there now. Its nice on wheels and other things, and has a sense of nostalgia to me, so I dont think i'll ever be out of stock on AIO.

Thats an interesting idea on the Klasse before polishing ... i may give that a whirl. I HAVE used it after polishing to make sure the surface is cleaned, and it worked nice for that as well... so as the story unfolds, it looks like there are still plenty of uses for AIO in my garage.
 
Klasse All-In-One and Klasse High Gloss Paint Sealant were developed by a German company and when used together are top performers.

My only recommendation when using Klasse High Gloss Paint Sealant it's much more easier to use when applied using a spray bottle. Thanks Scott for the great tip!! :props:
 
Klasse AIO was the first boutique detailing thing I used several years back when this forum started...did it all by hand and was simply blown away by the initial results, gone were minor oxidization spots, finish looked great!
And then, my wallet got smaller and I ventured forth! I gave my last bottle away several years ago and regret not having any around for certain things.
 
The Moose said:
I am in the same boat sadly. I love(d) klasse AIO, and its actually the first "serious" detailing product I ever bought years ago but as I've gotten more into various polishes, its kind of just sitting there now. Its nice on wheels and other things, and has a sense of nostalgia to me, so I dont think i'll ever be out of stock on AIO.

Thats an interesting idea on the Klasse before polishing ... i may give that a whirl. I HAVE used it after polishing to make sure the surface is cleaned, and it worked nice for that as well... so as the story unfolds, it looks like there are still plenty of uses for AIO in my garage.
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Felt the same way until I got involved in getting the paint to pass the plastic baggie test. Claying alone will not do the job and if you polish with grit still embedded into the paint....you won't get the same result. Try using the KAIO right after you clay and then put the plastic bag to it - you'll be amazed. FWIW, after using KAIO I wipe the paint down with Menzerna Top Inspection, just to get the surface chemical/sealant free before polishing or applying the LSP.
 
addysdaddy said:
Felt the same way until I got involved in getting the paint to pass the plastic baggie test. Claying alone will not do the job and if you polish with grit still embedded into the paint....you won't get the same result. Try using the KAIO right after you clay and then put the plastic bag to it - you'll be amazed. FWIW, after using KAIO I wipe the paint down with Menzerna Top Inspection, just to get the surface chemical/sealant free before polishing or applying the LSP.
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But would'nt the KAIO be enough to clean the surface by itself, or do you apply the Menzerna as a "to be sure its clean" step?
 
KAIO tends to leave a little hint of acrylic sealer behind so it has a little protection or allows the KSG to bond better with the paint surface.
 
I'm going to surprise everyone here and recommend DG 501..hahahhaha. No, seriously, I know I write about it all the time, but for a very good reason(s): it works, it's cheap, it can be combined with 601 to be immediately topped and it looks great all on its own. You will be disgusted at what comes out on your pad on your supposedly clean paint!
 
joche26 said:
But would'nt the KAIO be enough to clean the surface by itself, or do you apply the Menzerna as a "to be sure its clean" step?
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The Menzerna chemically removes any traces of prior sealants, polishes or the like. Used like a detail spray, it will assure you of removing any prior residue that might be lingering on the paint.

flamed03vert said:
KAIO tends to leave a little hint of acrylic sealer behind so it has a little protection or allows the KSG to bond better with the paint surface.
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Right, some apply their LSP onto of the KAIO sealant whereas I choose to remove it priming the surface for my LSP of choice. Again used as a cleaner, I want to remove any of the sealant properties left behind by the KAIO. You will notice significantly better results with your compounding/polishing on a perfectly primed & cleaned paint surface. Just as a matter of course, I also wipe down the car with Top Inspections a second time after polishing, for the same reasons stated above. Guess they don't call it "detailing" for nothing.
 
richy said:
I'm going to surprise everyone here and recommend DG 501..hahahhaha. No, seriously, I know I write about it all the time, but for a very good reason(s): it works, it's cheap, it can be combined with 601 to be immediately topped and it looks great all on its own. You will be disgusted at what comes out on your pad on your supposedly clean paint!
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I agree, DG501 is a superior replacement in most cases for KAIO. KAIO is still the king for cleaning plastic trim and other stuff that don't work well with abrasives, but after clay came out, KAIO just wasn't the magic it used to be.
 
Guess that for now I have to conform with the KAIO, since Im detailing my car this saturday :(

I was just reading a article about IPA, can I make a quick batch for my saturday detailing project as a quick paint cleaner?
 
joche26 said:
Guess that for now I have to conform with the KAIO, since Im detailing my car this saturday :(

I was just reading a article about IPA, can I make a quick batch for my saturday detailing project as a quick paint cleaner?
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IPA take about 30sec-1min to make. Just choose your ratio and off you go:xyxthumbs:
 
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