Paint Coating Selection

Setec Astronomy said:
The first couple of times I used it, it flashed really fast on me and was hard to remove, and I asked myself why I would use this over OC 2.0 (of course that was back when you could get OC 2.0), but as I said the last time I seemed to have better luck with it.
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When you say remove, you mean high spots?

I'm glad you are having better luck. The last time I used the DG coating, I purposely left high spots to see what would happen to them over time. Within a week they were gone without me attempting to remove. I could be wrong, but I think the high spots are just excess product that can't adhere properly and eventually wash away.

I'll have to try this again to document. Maybe take pics each day until it's gone.
 
gski said:
When you say remove, you mean high spots?

I'm glad you are having better luck. The last time I used the DG coating, I purposely left high spots to see what would happen to them over time. Within a week they were gone without me attempting to remove.
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Yeah, high spots. The first couple of times I felt there was less time to remove the high spots than some other coatings. I guess this last time I was more careful.

However, if DG coating high spots go away by themselves in a week, that doesn't say much for the durability of the coating, does it? If you leave a high spot with most coatings, they are there forever (or at least until you polish them off).
 
Setec Astronomy said:
He's got the other 2 PBMG coatings there, why not the 3rd? Besides he lists the CQuartz coatings as "hard to apply", so why not add another easy one that is frequently on sale?
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Makes sense.

Just didn't know if you liked PBL better than the other PBMG options, or it outperformed others.

Thanks
 
Setec Astronomy said:
However, if DG coating high spots go away by themselves in a week, that doesn't say much for the durability of the coating, does it? If you leave a high spot with most coatings, they are there forever (or at least until you polish them off).
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Maybe, I don't know. Can we agree that high spots are excess coating? It seems "highspotaphobia" is one of the main things that makes people anxious about a coating. But if it's just the excess coating that couldn't bond to the paint and "washes" away over time, wouldn't that be bonus over a coating with a high spot that somehow hardens and is hard to remove?

Of course, there is the other line of thinking that it speaks to the lack of durability of the coating. That's just not my experience.

I'm also not saying to ignore or intentionally create high spots with any coating. I'm just trying to say that I think DG has a pretty darn good coating that for me has been practically fool proof to apply.
 
The black T-bird I did had me really worried cause while applying it I saw a bunch of streaking initially. They all went away after the "buffing" step and the car turned out great!

I am sure the other coatings are great...maybe even better than but I will stick with my DG coating.
 
I'd like to weigh in a bit and provide some information. I have used a good variety of coatings but certainly not all of them. I have used CQUK once. I have not used the new Opti-Gloss but have used plenty of the old OC2.0

Now down to your list. I am going to reference the PBL paint coating V1 as well since I have used it.

The DP paint coating is a great coating to get your feet wet with. It is also cheaper than the others so you could include this as an entry level coating for clientele if you so wish. However the looks and durability is not on par with the other PBMG coatings IMO.

The PBL paint coating V1 is a great product with good durability and ease of use. It does change the look of paint and darken it a shade IME. If you really want to AMP up the shine, gloss, depth, etc PBL Synergy does dramatically do that in my experience.

What I personally don't care for with the DP coating and PBL coating is the added machine step needed to cleanse the paint from previous machine polishing steps. This method uses a machine step to cleanse the paint instead of using an spray and wipe such as IPA, Eraser, etc. Keep this in mind.

Now we arrive at the new BlackFire Paint coating. This product gets my vote over the other coatings listed and that I have used. Surface prep is the easier method with the spray and wipe technique. Ease of use will come down to personal preference of the user. This product is thin and has the consistency of water. PBL applies from a mist.

I will say that the darkening effect is more noticeable and pronounced with the BlackFire product. Gloss, depth, shine etc will be even more pronounced when you apply BlackFire Midnight later on. Of course you could also add some Midnight Sun Paste, Souveran, or Synergy.

Now on the back side of things, I really like the supporting maintenance products for the PBL paint coating such as the dedicated shampoo, coating detailer, and coating booster. I would really like to see an addition to the BlackFire lineup to support the coating that maintains the "Synergistic Compatibility".

I hope I didn't get too far off track or confuse you.
 
Anybody know how many cars I would be able to do with each one, being the Blackfire kit (8 OZ), Gloss Coat Kit (20CC) and the GTECH Exo2 kit (50ML)? The three cars I would start with would be a Focus ST, Forester, and GTO.
 
You will get varying answers but I had applied opti-gloss coat to a medium size sedan recently (no wheels or glass) and I used about 4 oz.
 
Zelfiris said:
You will get varying answers but I had applied opti-gloss coat to a medium size sedan recently (no wheels or glass) and I used about 4 oz.
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4 oz?!! That's 120 ml!

I can do almost two coats on a car that size with 10 ml.
 
To contribute to the discussion though:

Opt Gloss Coat is super easy to apply. Don't expect to do 3 cars with 10 or 20 ml though. Not on tire first time using coatings at least.

The Duragloss Enviroshield Coating is super easy. Like, the easiest, most forgiving thing to apply. Easier than Collinite 845. You can buff the high spots off the next day!! It has good hydrophobic properties and definitely made my dad's black Carrera S look wetter.

I just did Cquartz for the first time yesterday. I found it no more difficult to apply than Gloss Coat except that you wait a little bit and have to figure out what time between applying and wiping off works for you.

I agree that getting used to using something like Opti-Seal definitely can help. It can leave "high spots" just like a coating can and learning what to look for this way is easier than diving head first into coatings.
 
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