Pan the Organizer product line...let's discuss@

Uncbrs said:
This seems to be their thing (THOR's)... approach brands that haven't really been released or available in the US. They've got one from Poland and one from Italy recently I had not previously been aware of. Their sales pitch and approach must be pretty solid to get so many to commit.

I've been seeing the hype for Katiba for awhile now. What could they really be doing that others can't? I hate the term "game changer" in this industry because odds are, it will just be an iteration of a current product that has better gloss, easier application or some other improvement that won't change the industry.

Unless I can apply Katiba once and never ever have to wash again because my vehicle is just permanently clean and ready for any old random topper I choose in that minute (scratch free of course), it'll just be the next brand built on hype for now.

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The packaging is hilarious, what are the Polish and Italian products you speak of, curious

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Klasse Act said:
The packaging is hilarious, what are the Polish and Italian products you speak of, curious

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Careful. Curiosity kills the cat!

Cleantle - Poland
Innovacar - Italy

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Klasse Act said:
This is getting a bit carried away so my advice is this, block/ignore a person you don't care for and enjoy not seeing/hearing from them (although the person I have blocked it still shows ignored, wish he would just disappear altogether)

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I’m guessing Flash again…. lol…. Internet troll in real life…


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Setec Astronomy said:
Boys, boys--you somehow missed that Pan's ceramic spray tied with Turtle Wax for last in Sheepstar's 4 product test. Which he touts as a "real world" test vs. the chemical torture test that the Dogma guy did where Pan's did really well.
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Remember when the turtle wax was the internet darling? I mean


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Klasse Act said:
Europeans...which brand? I agree about the tub, I like TWHS ceramic+graphene and Gyeon Q2 Wax for sure, gotta apply some this year for sure

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Dodo and Swiss wax are nice. I’m done waxing…


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Klasse Act said:
I've only heard of Polish Angel, I guess these other brands are like the "Prog Rock/Jazz fusion of Waxes", so your into King Crimson/YES/Mahavishnu Orchestra/Weather Report of the wax world

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Spoil yourself and get Polish Angel Cosmic spritz or High Gloss. PA are my favorite toppers


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Uncbrs said:
This seems to be their thing (THOR's)... approach brands that haven't really been released or available in the US. They've got one from Poland and one from Italy recently I had not previously been aware of. Their sales pitch and approach must be pretty solid to get so many to commit.

I've been seeing the hype for Katiba for awhile now. What could they really be doing that others can't? I hate the term "game changer" in this industry because odds are, it will just be an iteration of a current product that has better gloss, easier application or some other improvement that won't change the industry.

Unless I can apply Katiba once and never ever have to wash again because my vehicle is just permanently clean and ready for any old random topper I choose in that minute (scratch free of course), it'll just be the next brand built on hype for now.

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I’m a sucker for niche brands. Why I’m a THOR fan…


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Klasse Act said:
"Clean"tle

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Combo of Clean and Gentle I bet. They're very big on their products being über environment safe so I think "gentle" is with regards to their environment footprint:

We focus on quality – we care about the versatility of our products for car washing and detailing. We create highly effective formulations without dangerous substances. Our car cosmetics meet the expectations of both automotive enthusiasts and professionals.

• We are a Polish manufacturer of car cosmetics, which was the first in Poland to focus on products that are as safe as possible for the user.

• We care about the natural derivation of our products.

• We create car cosmetics that are maximally effective and easily biodegradable.

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Klasse Act said:
Maybe but with such facilties and people why wouldn't you craft your own though, it's a long time family business, for lack of a better term, "control freaks" would be in full effect, especially when reformulation of an existing product
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Just playing Devil's Advocate here, they have 3 different rinseless washes--they all come in a gallon, but the smaller size for 2 of them is 35oz, while the third is 16oz. Also, the RW dilution for each of the 3 is different...why? If they are "crafting" all 3 of these, why not be consistent on the dilution ratio and the bottle sizing?

As far as "why wouldn't you craft your own", there are a lot of reasons why, even if you have the capability to do it yourself, you might not.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Just playing Devil's Advocate here, they have 3 different rinseless washes--they all come in a gallon, but the smaller size for 2 of them is 35oz, while the third is 16oz. Also, the RW dilution for each of the 3 is different...why? If they are "crafting" all 3 of these, why not be consistent on the dilution ratio and the bottle sizing?

As far as "why wouldn't you craft your own", there are a lot of reasons why, even if you have the capability to do it yourself, you might not.
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I almost forgot about rinseless wash and wax, it's 1 oz/ 2.5 gallons, the new stuff is 1 oz to 2 gallons and the difference in dilution is probably because one has wax while the other doesn't

As far as the sizes, THAT'S a head scratcher

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Coatingsarecrack said:
Dodo and Swiss wax are nice. I’m done waxing…


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I still have Blue Velvet and Light Fantastic from Dodo on the shelf, bought probably 16-17 years ago and they still go on easy, and look good. But when they're gone, they are gone. I paid $96 each for 260ml, and if I feel like waxing, Collinite is better.

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Coatingsarecrack said:
Spoil yourself and get Polish Angel Cosmic spritz or High Gloss. PA are my favorite toppers


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"Spoil myself"...that sh!ts expensive, I've got a Hyundai Elantra N, not a 911

On the other hand, if I wasn't so into this hobby like I am I could splurge on that stuff, and I thought Dr. Beasley was expensive

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Big Dave said:
I still have Blue Velvet and Light Fantastic from Dodo on the shelf, bought probably 16-17 years ago and they still go on easy, and look good. But when they're gone, they are gone. I paid $96 each for 260ml, and if I feel like waxing, Collinite is better.

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Almost $100 almost 20 years ago, damn Dave you were a baller (what's the Aussie name for "baller")

Man I thought $60 for the smaller size of Fuzion was crazy back in thr day! I have a tub of Mouton Wax given to me by a member I met here 10 years ago who has since passed and that stuff was like $150 IIRC, crazy️

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Klasse Act said:
"Spoil myself"...that sh!ts expensive, I've got a Hyundai Elantra N, not a 911

On the other hand, if I wasn't so into this hobby like I am I could splurge on that stuff, and I thought Dr. Beasley was expensive

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Swing through Colorado on the next road trip, I've got plenty of PA toppers. That was an expensive rabbit hole!

I've even got some of the color specific options from the Cosmic Spritz or the Carnauba Arts line for that blue Taos

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Klasse Act said:
"Spoil myself"...that sh!ts expensive, I've got a Hyundai Elantra N, not a 911

On the other hand, if I wasn't so into this hobby like I am I could splurge on that stuff, and I thought Dr. Beasley was expensive

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You spend that on several toppers and detailing throughout the year. I had a 500ML that I used almost monthly last me 3+ years. You and I are gonna top and not add durability and the gloss was insane.

I decide a while ago buy less and buy better. The buy less has worked out so-so


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I should use my High Gloss again this year. It doesn't have the durability of the current generation of products, but it's very nice to use, looks great, and has phenomenal hydrophobics.

I also have a bottle of Kamikaze Overcoat that's about 5 years old. I wonder if it's still good anymore. That stuff was also great.
 
Klasse Act said:
I almost forgot about rinseless wash and wax, it's 1 oz/ 2.5 gallons, the new stuff is 1 oz to 2 gallons and the difference in dilution is probably because one has wax while the other doesn't

As far as the sizes, THAT'S a head scratcher
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Ok, so what's the explanation for why the Ceramic Rinseless is 1oz/gallon?
 
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