Permanon Platinum I Just Protected my Car for Winter...In the Rain!

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Six months ago, the car had an application of Adam's Quick Sealant and Adam's Americana. Today the beading and sheeting characteristics were nearly dead and it was probably going to be the last day I had off before temps went back into the 30s. So I washed the car with 1oz of Adam's car shampoo and 4oz of CG All Clean+ diluted 1:10. This removed all protection from the car but the paint was still smooth as glass so the previous protection did a great job.

Next I added 50ml of Permanon Platinum to 31oz of water in a 36oz Adam's spray bottle. Now keep in mind it was raining out and the car was not beading at all.

The car was wet so despite the rain I sprayed the Permanon Platinum all over the car (paint, glass, wheels, fender liners, etc.).

I then rinsed with a strong stream of water and here are the results:

The beading is from the rain, not artificially created from a spray bottle or hose.





Now using the hose I created a sheeting effect for a 50:50 shot of sheeting vs. beading ability. It sheets very well and somewhat quickly but not extremely fast.



Hopefully this lasts a solid 3 months, but 6 months + like my previous LSP would be even better.
 
It is a good, easy to use, and effective product, but under-rated somehow here in AG community.

I have got it lasts for 5 months in tropical weather. While it does wonder on all surface (except rubber/plastic, they don't work), it is especially wonderful on windscreen and rims. Now that I have Opti Glass on my ride, but Permanon or Opti-Seal still the one I would use on other less taken care car at home.

And I actually did the same thing once before when my sister's came back from outside raining, I noticed poor beading and therefore hosed down the car then ONR it. Without drying it I sprayed Permanon all over, rinse down and blow dry using blower.
 
This particular Permanon application method of yours doesn't exactly fit the manufacturer's recommendations for its:
Application; rinsing-off/down; and, then, drying-off...to achieve the maximum bonding/durability, and: UV protection.

But if you're satisfied...

:)

Bob
 
FUNX725 said:
This particular Permanon application method of yours doesn't exactly fit the manufacturer's recommendations for its:
Application; rinsing-off/down; and, then, drying-off...to achieve the maximum bonding/durability, and: UV protection.

But if you're satisfied...

:)

Bob
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I realize I didn't dry the vehicle afterwards, but if you rinse off all of the excess product, what exactly does drying achieve in regards to its bonding ability?
 
You shouldn't apply it with the car wet. It dilutes the Permanon.
 
swanicyouth said:
You shouldn't apply it with the car wet. It dilutes the Permanon.
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Correct.



Permanon will bond to whatever it is applied to or what it can bond to. So minerals and contamination in the standing water will not only dilute the Permanon but hinder the bonding.

I always wash and dry my car first. Then apply Permanon using DI water to get the best application possible. Since Permanon bonds as soon as it hits a surface you can then rinse it once it's applied.

Personally I never had much durability with Permanon. But it is slick as a quick temporary windshield sealant.




 
Well we'll see how it lasts. If it's gone in a month I'll just put quick sealant back on it.
 
There is a product that the dealer I work at sells for new cars and it sounds exactly like permanon. They say it is supposed to last 7 years ha ha. The application sounds exactly like Permanon.
 
hey, you do what you have to do. Obviously the conditions were not optimal and it will have an effect on the durability, but something is better than nothing. If you're dedicated enough to do it in the rain, I'm sure you will follow up at some point when you have better conditions. Good job.
 
SYMAWD said:
I realize I didn't dry the vehicle afterwards, but if you rinse off all of the excess product, what exactly does drying achieve in regards to its bonding ability?
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You rinsed with a "strong stream" of water...
That, too, is a No-No...per: Permanon's manufacturer.

How did you determine there was no bonding, while drying...
When drying:
According to the manufacturer assists in "compressing" Permanon at the nano-level for bonding enhancement?

But then again:
If you're satisfied...

Bob
 
15 Day Update:
The car has yet to be washed but on the upper half and all the glass it beads and sheets like the day I applied it. On the lower half I can't comment until I wash it because it is covered with salt.
 
Here it is after 26 days. I only show the lower panels as they were caked with salt for the past 14 days. While the beading really isn't a true test, the sheeting gives a pretty strong indication it is still there. The upper half of the car still beads and sheets like the day I applied it and as you can see the lower panels only had very minimal if any degradation in performance. The car was cleaned with Adam's Rinseless wash prior to the video.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWyydrKD03M]Permanon Platinum Day 26 Durability - YouTube[/video]
 
I wonder why CarPro Hydro2 Touchess Silica Sealant suggests, "Immediately rinse well with strong water pressure to produce physical shock and create a well formed coating. "

"Permanon coatings utilize waterborne nano-engineered particles of Silicium (14Si) that form an electrostatic bond with the surface being protected."

CarPro Hydro2 "Formulated using hydrophilic glass fibers, silicon polymers and advanced fluoropolymers,..."

I guess a little Mystery is good
 
allenk4 said:
I wonder why CarPro Hydro2 Touchess Silica Sealant suggests, "Immediately rinse well with strong water pressure to produce physical shock and create a well formed coating. "

"Permanon coatings utilize waterborne nano-engineered particles of Silicium (14Si) that form an electrostatic bond with the surface being protected."

CarPro Hydro2 "Formulated using hydrophilic glass fibers, silicon polymers and advanced fluoropolymers,..."

I guess a little Mystery is good
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I'm not sure. It would be cool if I had another sample of Permanon that I could apply next winter and apply it exactly how Permanon intended it to be applied. So far the in-the-rain-method seems to have worked well enough that it survived 2 weeks covered in salt and a few hours covered in mud.
 
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